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Post by whiterose on Dec 1, 2006 18:45:47 GMT -5
This is a must read if you want to understand a bit about what their thoughts are on forming criteria for an issue: peer.org/wordpress/?p=99
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Post by whiterose on Jan 11, 2007 9:04:48 GMT -5
So sad to have so much to be grateful for and so many talents and to use it to destroy, what is wrong with us? www.uruknet.info/?p=29598
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Post by whiterose on Jan 16, 2007 19:01:27 GMT -5
Here is a group that look to be concerned about their actions and ours. www.ucsusa.org/
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Post by whiterose on Jan 17, 2007 9:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on Jan 26, 2007 3:02:33 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on Jan 29, 2007 11:37:46 GMT -5
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Post by bakunin on Jan 30, 2007 0:09:10 GMT -5
This is a must read if you want to understand a bit about what their thoughts are on forming criteria for an issue: peer.org/wordpress/?p=99That was a good read, with one exception. By reading something like "Aristotelian-to-Newtonian physical models", i get the disire to scream out as a Metaphician! Aritstole and Newtons views on physics are not the same, they directly oppose each other! Aristotles view on physics is based on the metaphysical view that all things are interconected with each other fallowing a kind of internal natur order. Newton view is something i call "physical mystic", it's the notion that all things exist sperated from each other. Galilean-Newtonian views on physics are leading nowhere. Same with Einsteins wrong physics. That's why the modern mystic establishment had to invent junk science concepts like "dark energy" or "dark matter" to get there computer models of the universe work at all! A good overview about how physics actually do work: "The Greeks believed that everything has a natural place in the universe and strives to reach it. Motion, therefore, in the Greek physics was a form of change. A change of position required a force, and any sustained motion required a continual force. The perplexing question was why a thrown object should continue after it leaves the hand. This was answered as being caused by a commotion created in the air behind the object that propelled it forward. It was discrediting of this theory that led to Galileo's novel conception of motion." The Physics and New Worldview www.non-newtonianphysics.com/anew.htm A good quote: "The notion that all these fragments is separately existent is evidently an illusion, and this illusion cannot do other than lead to endless conflict and confusion. Indeed, the attempt to live according to the notion that the fragments are really separate is, in essence, what has led to the growing series of extremely urgent crises that is confronting us today. Thus, as is now well known, this way of life has brought about pollution, destruction of the balance of nature, over-population, world-wide economic and political disorder and the creation of an overall environment that is neither physically nor mentally healthy for most of the people who live in it. Individually there has developed a widespread feeling of helplessness and despair, in the face of what seems to be an overwhelming mass of disparate social forces, going beyond the control and even the comprehension of the human beings who are caught up in it." -- David Bohm, Wholeness and the Implicate Order, 1980
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Post by whiterose on Jan 30, 2007 12:06:25 GMT -5
Excellent Post! Very perceptive! The biggest mistake of man, is that he thinks his actions have no affect, that little kindness you do or choose not to do, and how it has the ability to go around the world.
I understand fully what you have written and it makes perfect sense to me, and I have to wonder why those in control have taken this understanding from the masses. Perhaps to make them feel small and helpless, perhaps this is why they also focus on the ego, it helps to give them power and control.
That is a huge lesson, do not live through the ego, and you can't be controlled.
I realize this is a simplistic way to look at it, at least some may say, but it is not really that hard, there are just those who have control that want to make it seem hard, helps to keep them in power.
wr
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Post by bakunin on Jan 30, 2007 20:52:11 GMT -5
Ya, it's all about control. Do you know a litle about the history of education? It's called fragmented education. Fragmented knowledge takes the ability away to learn and think independently. Thus means that experts or teacher are needed to explain what ist do to, or to think. This than slowly leads to obidiance and ignorance.
Fragmented education was first invented in Prussia (Germany) in order to produce drones for the also new invented militarism. Fragmented education than eventually has lead to the fragmented junk science we have today. It was one of the reasons for the end of the age of enlightenmen and the end of metaphysics as the center of science.
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"The higher education would give less ground for the complaint that it throws into society crowds of ambitious persons without any means of satisfying their desires, and interested in the overthrow of the State; people without employment and unable to get any, good for nothing and believing themselves fit for anything, especially for the direction of public affairs. Scientific studies do not so inflate the mind. They enlighten and regulate it at once; they fit men for practical life. . . ." -- M. Chevalier, France around 1840 (quoted by Proudhon)
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Post by whiterose on Jan 31, 2007 14:25:06 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on Jan 31, 2007 14:27:17 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on Feb 17, 2007 18:22:39 GMT -5
What is in my mind, is mine untill it leaves. This story will remind you of the movie minority report, it is obvious that science is going to far. I suppose next we will be tried for what we think, even before it is spoken. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6346069.stm
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Post by whiterose on Mar 25, 2007 16:09:42 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on Apr 7, 2007 12:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by whiterose on May 16, 2007 9:06:10 GMT -5
Perhaps we should not only think about ourselves but about the effects of the things we choose to manipulate with science. It is obvious to me that many scientists live without that connection to the source/God/Creator, how sad. www.raidersnewsnetwork.com/full.php?news=5385
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