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Post by aussie on Sept 26, 2006 21:37:24 GMT -5
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Post by Joyfullee on Sept 27, 2006 0:54:24 GMT -5
I read with interest www.livescience.com but also, with hesitation, as much of the pain I have endured w/the Fiber Disease is an emotional and physical journey alone, invalidated, rejected and untreated by many physicians. No physician until last year had the courage and humility to walk beside me. Most have dismissed this as DOP. The concept of parasite mind control?...Well, even with a probability this is happening, could further isolate us, if mentioned too soon in medical treatment. That being said, I will add what little I can...my son, an Epidemiologist looked at the human parasite studies. Other than the excellent OK Public Health study of 2000 (which validates that the majority who presented parasite infestation were in fact infested), the research mostly validates DOP. An interesting question my son posed was this: With the OK study proving the majority had parasite infestation (not DOP), one can assume that many in these other studies would have had a genuine infestation, but were treated as DOP patients and yet, improved? What is in these meds which tend to decrease genuine symptoms? Your article mentions an Oxford researcher who seems to be aware of this now. I emailed this to my son, thanks. But no wonder the majority of us are still being treated as psychotic. I haven't submitted to psychotic meds because I don't want the warning symtoms decreased, when I know the actual baseline problem is being ignored. Thanks for the info. I've been off line for a couple days so need to update myself. Hope SickandTired's husband can recall the bug's PH. Like most of us, I've wanted to know how I was exposed. I drove by a sewage plant for almost a year and would put my air on recycle to avoid the stench. Also, my cat lived indoors, but I'd catch him chasing and eating flies. Cliff wrote that he has noted fibers in flies. I have noted a few flies on the floor, run around in circles, zig zaging crazily. Reminds me of pics of cows infected with Mad Cow Disease. If this info frightens anyone, I have this to add. Victor Frankl survived the horrific death camps of the Nazis and wrote a book on his experience. He observed those who survived had a strong faith. I do. If you don't, but would like too. Allow me to share a poignant moment. After several physicians, unable to believe their own eyes, added to my suffering with incorrect diagnosis, I sat in the plush surroundings of a very expensive and recognized specialis. On one of his massive end tables a lamp shone on a Gideon Bible. I hadn't seen one of those in years! I picked it up and instantly became aware of a text. I couldn't wait to read it. Here it is in the NKJ version: "Surely He shall deliver you...from the perilous pestilence." (Psalms 91:3) I'll post here when it happens! I'm trying Aussie's "Simple Cure" for now. FYI: His diagnosis was Granuloma Annulaire (no treatment) Please keep sharing personal thoughts and experiences. I recognize our comman symtoms, though scary, comforts. Thinker, my family and I have had several of the dreams you refer too. They began almost a decade ago. I can't emphasize how important a strong faith can be in times of uncertainity. (Spoken by a former Agnostic)
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Post by aussie on Sept 27, 2006 1:47:20 GMT -5
Hi Joyfullee........was wondering where you'd gone. Funny when you think one of "the family" is missing. I'll be offline myself shortly for the next week or so.
I couldn't agree more with you about "faith", that's about all we've got, isn't it? Even when they "discover"a mainstream cure for Morgellons, it's only a drop in the ocean compared to what they've done with the rest of this planet.
I am a former agnostic also, but after I had an NDE during the operation where the medical profession did their best to send me to "boot hill", I now know for sure there is more to us and where we're going than meets the eye. And it won't be where the PTB go, that's for sure. I like doing the golden light protection when I go to bed...it's like a sleeping tablet for me. Have no fear. Cheers.
Ps I also would like to know how the anti psychotic drugs work. I got the impression that somehow they kill the parasite(like having a dual personality and the parasitic personality gets bumped off). Food for thought anyway, eh?
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Post by flowerchild on Sept 27, 2006 8:22:03 GMT -5
This may really sound far-out, so I have kept this thought to myself, but...I have wondered about references in the Bible to Jesus healing people by casting out demons. These worms certainly do resemble serpents and dragons.I remember one story in the New Testament wherin there was dificulty in healing one man, and Jesus told the diciples it was because you needed to fast first. I have thought of that often in trying to think of what to eat or not to eat in trapping these "little demons". I also think it's interesting that Jesus drove demons out of a peson and into a herd of swine. Was it accepted that swine got "demons" ? I, too, had an out-of-body, floating over the OR table experience when I stopped breating during surgery. I saw everything that was going on in the OR room. I have always been a spiritual person, but that experience helped me know for certain that we are Spiritual beings having a temporary human experience.I pray for God to give me strength and courage to cope with this illness in a way that's for our highest good. When it gets at it's very worst, I can hear "Trust in the Lord with all thine heart, and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thine ways aacknowledge him, and He shall direct thy path." and "I can do all things though Christ who strenghens me." God bless and help us all. Flowerchild
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Post by prevenge on Oct 2, 2006 20:43:39 GMT -5
many many many people confuse schitzophrenia with multiple personality disorder, where they are two separate illnesses.
this is a very interesting find that the anti-psychotic drug that was "found" to have previously alleived schitzophrenic symptoms actually kills the parasite. possibly thats no duality at all, but actually the killing of the parasite that CAUSED the schitzophrenia, was actually the REASON it worked, not merely a siding coincidence.
i wouldnt be surpised if and when Morgellons gets attention and treatement, its' going to be psychotic drugs that work, hell, those drugs could be THE drugs that actually KILL the parasite that we KNOW we have, but the doctor will merely say .. nah.. it just helped your mind become "chemically balanced" ... upon rlief of the symptoms....
on another note, while i am deeply spiritual in my own views, i think that there is most likely cures for most dibilitating and/or deadly diseases out there, and they are suppressed, only to be released when someone comes in the form of a savior and seems to magically cure people when in all actuality he's merely implementing repressed cures. show a 15th century peasant a Television, he'll think it's holy or demonic, or magic. there can be a technological base for everything in this world, in my mind. even the TRULY holy. thats what can add to the beauty of holiness, the descriptionand UNDERSTANDING of it.
NOT understanding it, looks like a miracle or magic, and wins peoples minds and souls under influence, because of the complete emotional release thats taken into consideration upon curing someone under the guise of religion.
just a realistic hypothesis. - if ever someone wanted to ACTUALLY win over the public support in hearts and minds of a diseased, disabled population, that would be a completely sure route to take.
con jobs. big time. the slow con.
-M
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Post by thinker on Oct 3, 2006 12:29:33 GMT -5
Woo hoo!! Another thinker joins us!!!
Thanks very much, prevenge, for joining our conversation. So many members are silent and it's a shame. They probably have much to say and it's everyone's loss that they stay silent - even if they disagree. It's the conversation that takes us to new levels of understanding.
Speak up, guys!! Most of us don't bite. :-)
Without communication, we have absolutely nothing and the expense of silence is more than we likely want to pay.
Your points in this post are very excellent. In retrospect, I have seen many hints that our "inhabitants" may very well be a collective, borg-like, communicating entity, affecting personality as well as our physiological state. (I sure hope they don't LOOK like borg. Yikes) In my "chain reaction" post, I sort of hit on that concept, without realizing it, as Jan and Cliff helped me understand.
As for me, my "little voice" or intuition is the best advisor I have. I learned the hard way that my gut instinct is seldom wrong and I now rely on it heavily. But in light of this discussion, I believe I'll be scrutinizing it, just the same, in case the borg have infiltrated. LOL
Your second point - for a long time now, I've been thinking that we need to be careful with any injections or meds we agree to - we can't be sheeple.
I can't remember the guy's name, but there's a Latino in Miami who is telling his flock that he is Jesus and they are signing over all of their assets and their souls to him. They have that glazed, crazed look is in their eyes and I'm sure they would do anything he asks - they're pretty antagonistic and aggressive, too - at his command. Yikes again.
In one of the nano seminars I saw, they discussed "quantum dots," each of which has a camera lens on it. They are put in the body and someone can view you inside-out - obvious good and bad uses.
Nowadays, so many things can be put into us without our knowledge, or even the caregiver's knowledge, that we really must be careful. Not to mention that nano dust the Senators were discussing (in prior post). Whodda thunk that dust could spy on you with full audio/video transmission capability. It gives a new meaning to voyeurism, don't you think?
One of the positive things about Morgs is that it brings to our awareness so many of these issues that the sheeple aren't seeing at all. I have made quantum leaps in my understanding of many things in just a few months, just as we all have.
Spirit, faith and stubbornness has allowed many cancer patients to cure themselves when doctors could do nothing, like the guy sent home to die, who cured himself by watching Three Stooges shows, laughing for weeks and then discovering he had no more cancer. We all have the inner ability to do the same.
Thank you, everyone, for walking alongside me and furthering my comprehension of this new reality. Thank you, Cliff, for the countless ways you've helped us all. And welcome, prevenge!
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Post by thinker on Oct 3, 2006 13:05:29 GMT -5
I've been watching chemclouds for quite a while now and have noticed one pecuiliar thing.
No matter which way the wind is blowing at ground-level, these clouds seem to have "minds" of their own. I realize directions can be different at different levels, but ALL THE TIME?
How is it that these tiny atoms of whatever these clouds are know to group together and stay grouped together? They keep their group configuration as they float away.
They move together, in unison, in the same direction, and they stay together for a long time.
BTW - has anyone noticed the 4" raindrops that we get now?
I started videoing them 6 months ago - on slow-mo speed, they don't resemble rain at all.
They have a cohesive quality, more like glycerine, and they move through the air more like a streamer of paper. When we do get real rain, its properties are much, much different.
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Post by thinker on Oct 4, 2006 11:17:02 GMT -5
Come to think of it, Jean Luc Picard escaped the borg, although it took a few shows to do it. LOL So, why can't we?
Tiny healing steps forward lead to giant leaps. Every bit of progress we make counts.
P.S. And we all want bodies like 7-of-9's when we're done, too.
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Post by john on Oct 29, 2006 0:24:04 GMT -5
Speaking of the schizo drugs, they tried to put me on those several times! I spent a few weeks in the mental hospital in 1997, 1998 and 2000, and was "diagnosed" as manic depressive, bi-polar (or whatever they want to call it now) and possibly paranoid schizophrenic. Was only prescribed Lithium the first time (hey! - a salt that lowers the bodies PH. I might try some of those as an experiment now!) I refused to take the anti psychotics because of all the side effects. The next time they put me on depakote, but I quit taking them as well as soon as they released me.
Don't get me wrong, I am not a lunatic! I was just having some very strange and supernatural things happen and all those drugs do is keep you in the dark. Two of my four sisters are drug store junkies now, on disability, getting free money to stay stoned all the time and in the dark.
NOT ME !!! And my little sister has the same problems as I do but looks up to me and won't take the drugs either. And holds a full time job unlike my other sisters! She says "the Lithium makes all my hair fall out and the Depakote makes me throw up every morning. To heck with that!!!"
We are both relatively intelligent - I got a 3.9875 GPA from Wentworth Institute of Technology (now owned by MIT) in Boston with a degree in Electronic Engineering.
I held a few jobs and am now a Self Employed Computer Technician/Consultant and can afford a new sports car every two years... So... I am relatively happy. (except for this problem now :-( ) And still single! My girlfriend of 6 years died at only 44 (I was 41) in 2003 of some kind of infection complicated by a half gallon of Vodka every day or two! She probably needed that to stop the itching :-(
All the best, my friends!
John from Newport, RI
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Post by aussie on Oct 29, 2006 1:03:55 GMT -5
Good on you, John, for refusing to take their schizo drugs! We are right behind you.
We know you're not a lunatic and others of us have had some experience in the phenomena you are referring to.....it can be quite incredible if you are open to it....and believe me some of us definitely are. We know.
We are looking forward to some lively discussions and in the meantime....take care!
Ps Do you remember getting an initial rash? What do you think started it for you or do you think maybe it was contact with your girlfriend? Thinking of compiling a list of initail symptoms from members, that's all.
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Post by john on Oct 29, 2006 9:26:15 GMT -5
Yes, that is entirely possible. I had a little problem with the itching left ear years ago, but it wasn't until a lot of stress in the last few months that it has gotten really bad. And add to that I woke up a few times with my kitty kat licking my face ! I hear that is how you can get that Toxoplasma that they talk about here www.livescience.com/scienceoffiction/060210_technovelgy.htmlI don't remember an initial rash, but we were both drinking a lot back then and also got pretty crazy in the bedroom, so if she had anything strange (she lived in California for years before I met her) I probably contracted it from her. I otherwise feel OK, so don't really even WANT to know if I am HIV positive. (Unless I get into another relationship - just to protect HER) (I doubt it and also doubt the actual connection to AIDS !) I heard that EVERYONE who took AZT is now DEAD, while hundreds of thousands of HIV positive people who took NO drugs are still alive and well with no symptoms! Really makes you wonder. I would prefer to stay clean and away from all "chemical romances" and detox naturally and try and live a clean and healthy life from now on ! John
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Post by sarahconnor on Oct 29, 2006 15:46:35 GMT -5
My experience on the anitpsychotic medication was not pretty.
I gained 20kg, but this was not really weight gain, but infection. I have always had a very small frame, so for me to try and carry that extra 20kg was a nightmare. I am back to my normal size, apart from the swollen limbs, inflammation and fluid retention.
I have been off the antipsychotic meds for about 8 months, it was the best thing I did. I have taken a little bit of an antipsychotic during the past 8 months to help my paranoia, but they just don't work. I become extremely depressed for about 2 days afterwards, and will always have a seizure. They are mind altering drugs, and not in a nice way.
Getting antidepressants and antipsychotics out of my body over the past 8 months has been horrible, and I think a few of you on this board would agree on that one! They did terrible things to my mind.
My advice to others, if you know in your heart you don't have a mental illness, and you feel you can cope without the drugs, go without. Restore your faith, talk to God, he does help, he has helped me to where I am today.
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