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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 15:37:22 GMT -5
I'm going to run with this one...so give me a little room here...I think that there is something of a connection from what I have been seeing lately. I personally have not taken Ivermectin, scared to if I'm going to be honest, but I know sooo many people who have and they, for the most part say, that it seems to help. Others say it does not help at all. Perhaps dosing incorrectly? Who knows why it affects people differently, one very possible theory is nobody's bodies are made exactly the same. I'm not endorsing this product, I have seen right on the label NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION, so take heed and lets see where this investigation leads. Entertain me if you will............. . ivomec.us.merial.com/cowcalf/promotions/ivomec_challenge.pdf
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 15:44:19 GMT -5
Presence of an infected animal in the area is necessary. It should be noted that the liver fluke is capable of infecting and reproducing in several animal species other than cattle. Fasciola hepatica has also been found to occur in the bile ducts of sheep, goat, and other ruminants; hare; rabbit; beaver; dog; cat and man. This broad potential host base, plus the increase in mobility of the livestock population, makes most grazing areas of the United States potentially infected. Effect on Host: Adult liver flukes in the bile ducts lead to very classical clinical signs: there is gradual loss of condition, progressive weakness, anemia and hypoproteinemia with development of edematous subcutaneous swellings, especially in the intermandibular space and over the abdomen. The main effects are low weight gains in young cattle, decreased milk production and condemnation of infected livers. Overall, the clinical signs of fascioliasis in the live animal could easily be confused with nematode infections. Like nematode infections, obvious clinical signs of fascioliasis do not need to be present for productivity to be affected. what happens after we eat the infected cow? duh ivomec.us.merial.com/feedlot/parasites/liver_flukes.asp
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 15:57:24 GMT -5
ii) Chronic Fascioliasis This form of the disease is much more common in all of its host, particularly man. Here the infection is only rarely fatal, but, at least in domesticated animals, is of economic importance. In man the presence of the flukes causes a number of fairly non-specific symptoms including malaise, an intermittent fever, mild jaundice and anaemia, eosinophilia and, frequently, pain under the right costal margin. In addition, as described above, as Fasciola does not appear to be fully adapted to using man as a definitive host, the flukes may often give rise to ectopic infections, particularly in the lungs and subcutaneous tissues, where they may be found encysted. more here www.path.cam.ac.uk/~schisto/OtherFlukes/Fasciola.html
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 16:03:57 GMT -5
Pathogenesis In schistosomiasis, eggs trapped in the tissues produce granulomatous inflammatory reactions, fibrosis, and obstruction. The hermaphroditic flukes of the liver, lungs, and intestines induce inflammatory and toxic reactions.
Host Defenses Host defenses against schistosomiasis include antibody or complement-dependent cellular cytotoxicity and modulation of granulomatous hypersensitivity. The defenses against hermaphroditic flukes are unknown.
Epidemiology Most infected individuals show no overt disease. In a relatively small proportion of individuals, heavy infections due to repeated exposure to parasitic larvae will lead to the development of clinical manifestations. The distribution of flukes is limited by the distribution of their snail intermediate host. Larvae from snails infect a human by penetrating the skin (schistosomes) or by being eaten (encysted larvae of other trematodes).
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 16:05:40 GMT -5
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 16:15:28 GMT -5
So I gotta ask a question here for all the ladies. During your period, do you cramp heavily? Are you seeing blood clots...sorry if I'm being too graphic for all you men out there..... The reason I ask is that I'm not positively sure, but I'm doubting they are blood clots at all. They look very similiar to liver flukes. Others on other boards are noticing the same thing, vast amounts of Morg sufferers. Now I'm not saying that this is the sole reason we are sick, rather we should explore this subject and shed a little light on it. How many of you have these "blood clots"? I'm not shy, I do. And the heavy cramping. My clots look awfully similiar to these flukes. Speak up ladies....for pete's sake don't be quiet now!
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 16:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by aligator on Feb 2, 2007 16:46:39 GMT -5
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Post by gracebeours on Feb 2, 2007 23:33:46 GMT -5
Ali, you are on target. Six months ago when I was at my worst health wise (before I found this board), I had flukes and shistosomas. I kept them. I couldn't make them up or just "find them laying around". Thats when doctors told me I was crazy after they looked at my samples from across the room. GET A MICROSCOPE, you STUPID doctors.
Sorry all. Had a long day. I took d**n dog medicine to get rid of them since doctor looked at me with a straight face and said "We don't have parasites in this country." What a moron. I have my evidence and my sanity. They have ignorance and OCD (obsession with making money instead of curing people).
Now I feel better. Please excuse the brain fart. You know how us crazies are!
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