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Post by skytroll on Apr 26, 2007 19:58:22 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Apr 26, 2007 20:15:03 GMT -5
Fleas also act as the intermediate host for the tapeworm Dipylidium caninum and have been reported to transmit a large range of pathogens such as viruses, protozoa and bacteria. For example, they transmit the bacteria Bartonella henselae, the causative agent of cat scratch fever. more here: on the specific one you mention.....scroll down to last page..... tinyurl.com/2b4zdsskytroll
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Post by 0happyday on Apr 27, 2007 1:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by 0happyday on Apr 27, 2007 1:45:25 GMT -5
Above post is now corrected.
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Post by bugsy on Apr 27, 2007 6:36:04 GMT -5
Thanks guys!!!
Update: I will talk to the vet today about WHAT to do about the dogs lice problem..and how to treat it. It seems to be resistant to all treatments we tried.....before we knew what it was.
I'm putting up chicken wire all around our fortress fence...to keep out as many wild beasts as possible. Here's the ODD thing.....The vet says that dog lice are host specific...so I immediately thought of the Coyotes in the park behind house....BUT...they do not enter our yard EVER. Sooooo I guess that means that they are NOT host specific...right? Stands to reason. I guess the lice didn't read the brochure.. Secondly....the only wild animals I've seen in abundance are 1. Rabbits (many) and 2. O'poussom...which carry many many diseases and 3. I know we have racoons in the tree because the neighber saw them. 4. Squirrel's. We will first try to at least keep out the rabbits. If we are going to keep this dog...we must treat our yard as a harbenger of disease....MY LORD...otherwise...he may have to go.
Oh a footnote. I guess dog lice is rare. Vet only saw one case of it in her whole career. She said it usually never happens to dogs that are babied to the extent ours is. And he is VERY spoiled since birth. And we are not dirty people. Middle class...clean home omg...it has to be the yard!!!!!
~Bugsy
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Post by 0happyday on Apr 27, 2007 7:51:34 GMT -5
Hi Bugsy,
Just wanted to let you know that I have taken 3 different specimens to 3 different Doctors that looked very similar to the Trichodectes Canis. The first Dermatologist said it was body lice, the second Medical Specialist said it was scabies (which it looked nothing like), The 3rd was the Jemsek Clinic which does Lymes research, they said it was Bed Bugs. At that point I called an exterminator who looked in my house and said there was absolutely no sign of bedbugs. He put out sticky traps everywhere. Several weeks later he came back and picked them up and sent them to their Entomologist in Columbia, South Carolina. I had explained to the exterminator the lesions and all my symptoms. This was before I knew I had Morgellons. About a week later he came banging on my door and was very excited to tell me that the Entomologist had identified them as Phorid Flies and that they would bite people. Further research and I found numerous cases of Myiasis from Phorid Flies. Upon additional research I learned that Phorid Flies were released by the Dept of Agriculture to kill Fire Ants. They have been found as far as Canada.
Copy and paste; phorid human site:ars.usda.gov
They have infested hospitals, and are extremely hard to get rid of.
I'm not saying that it is not Trichodectes Canis only that the Phorid Fly has been associated with Morgellons and we know that many of our pets are infected. If you would like any more info on Phorid Flies let me know, I researched them for close to a year thinking that was all I had. Now, I wish that it was.
Big Hugs 0happyday
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Post by whiterose on Apr 27, 2007 8:41:47 GMT -5
Thank you 0happyday, that was just what I was thinking. If you have Morgellons it is most likely that your dog is suffering from it as well bugsy.
Many of us hear have already been through the "thinking" that we have several things going on. And often in hot, humid climates there can be some secondary things.
If you read Cliff Mickelsons articles on this thing being a changeling, you will than begin to understand the bigger picture. I'm not going on just what CM said either, but also on my own personal experience of 26 years with nanomorgellons.
We don't have many things going on, we have one that looks like many.
Big Hug, whiterose
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Post by bugsy on Apr 28, 2007 5:41:38 GMT -5
Well, well here is an interesting twist. The vet FINALLY called me back late yesterday and she show the picture of the insect to someone at Michigan State University...and....they said that it is dog lice and that EVERYTHING that we did to get rid of them before SHOULD have worked. Ummm....NO.. So she is going to give us a free lymedip on Monday due to the hundreds we already spent while they told us it was allergies, scabies, etc..etc.. Um duh...if lymedip didn't work before how will it magically work now? We ordered some Kleenfree to wash him in....and not get into his eyes. For all the good it will do. They will not come of me internally....externally...would have to bath him everyday..like me. OMG
Is this some sort of lice which has evolved to go internally? hmmmmm.............or fleas? Seems like lice and scabies got married.....with this Morgellons...
~Bugsy
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Post by whiterose on Apr 28, 2007 8:58:20 GMT -5
Ali recommends pumpkin and I give my dog black walnut and bath him once a week in a tub with hydrogen peroxide added.
Sounds like your pooch has Morgellons, best to build his immune system.
Many Blessings, whiterose
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Post by bugsy on Apr 29, 2007 10:30:38 GMT -5
lol That's so funny. We already do give him a Tablespoon of pumpkin everyday for his anal gland problem...per the vet. Thanks for the tips. Vitamins are great idea. The REAL problem for me is that I'm already so weak from anemia etc...hard to keep up with my own problems let alone my pets....did I mention I have a cat as well...who most likely has this too..and this is becoming a finanacial hardship at this point. I tried going the inexpensive route with the enzyme cleaners....but I'm not sure they are as effective. And if this is as long term as I think it will be then...well............I'M SUNK.
OY
~Bugsy
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Post by bugsy on Apr 29, 2007 19:57:11 GMT -5
On a side note. While researching online about Trichodectes Canis I came across something which seemed significant to me and a bit peculiar. I found a new anti-parasitc dog product which I will not mention the name of just the ingredients in it (imidaclaprid & moxidectin. This may not seem significant until you learn in what context I found this in.... Before I ever heard an utterence of Morgellon's or had any signs of this disease I did extensive research into which anti-parasitic dog medication to choose...for heartworm and other critters.... While searching I NEVER found any that claimed to control Trichodectes Canis...(dog lice). We have used all available products in the past which I will not mention brand names which included the following drugs: ivermectin selemectin milbemycin oxime (dog currently on) Heres the thing.....WHY IS A DRUG COMPANY NOW COMPELLED TO TOUT THIS ANTI-LICE PRODUCT for dogs? !!! Could it be that vets are now reporting more cases of this pest across the land and the drug company caught wind of it and wants to be cutting edge??? That is to assume that this is even a dog lice to begin with.......and that is a BIG assumption. But perhaps that is what this vector most likely resembles in all of the insect identification books....so that is what they are going with as a diagnosis. Just seems like odd timing to me. Quite coincidental......to be sure. ~Bugsy
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Post by whiterose on Apr 29, 2007 20:24:39 GMT -5
excellent sleuthing dear, for the record, I don't believe in coincidences.
This is being covered up with many different tales of what it might, could possibly be. The media and their cookie cutter stories have not done anything of consequence on the story of nano technology or Dr. Hildegard Staninger and all other notable persons involved. Nano technology is big money and so many possibilities, so much control at ones finger tips who could resist.
Great Job Bugsy!
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Post by bugsy on May 14, 2007 15:35:29 GMT -5
Update. The vet called today and talked to a parasitologist which said the dog had BITING lice..and not SUCKING lice...so that is why all of the preventatives we've been treating him with....HAVE FAILED...if the lice only eat surface skin then they will not eat the insecticide in the blood. I am having him Lyme Disease tested tomorrow. If he has that then there is a good chance that WE have that as well. Then we can treat him accordingly...
~Bugsy
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Post by 0happyday on May 15, 2007 1:31:20 GMT -5
Hi Bugsy, Another odd one for you; The drug stores are now carrying a product called PinX. Can be used by both adults and children for pin worms. I haven't heard of a case of pinworms in over 30 years. Go figure \. OH and thank you and Whiterose for making me laugh! ROTF LOL ;D
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Post by bugsy on May 15, 2007 5:04:23 GMT -5
Heeeyyyyy Ohappy!!! Glad to see ya..!! Yeah I've seen the Pin-X *wink* works for other things as well....ha I've discovered some strange facts about lice and flies....this all just gets curiouser and curiouser. *There are about 300 species of chewing/biting lice for mammals....and Thousands for our feathered friends. *Flies can carry lice.....it's called "phoresy in lice" google it and hit images...lice dangling from a fly. *Human botflies can lay eggs on mosquitos, other flies & ticks, etc..Its called Phoresis: parasitology.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.del/login/n/h/1088.htmlOh here is the pic link of a fly carrying the lice....weird.. to/web.org/tree/ToLimages/hippo.2.gif ~Bugsy
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Post by bugsy on May 15, 2007 5:05:48 GMT -5
Well the links didn't work......fiddlestix....guess just have to google...phoresis or phoresy in lice. Sorry ~Bugsy
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Post by bugsy on May 15, 2007 10:56:49 GMT -5
Well good news for my pooch....NO LYME. I guess it was a three part test for Lyme, Ehrlichia, and heartworms. Hope it was accurate. Geesh I'm getting sick of all of this. Phew!!!
Have a great day.
~Bugsy
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Post by 0happyday on May 15, 2007 22:17:05 GMT -5
Hi Bugsy! Glad to be back. I'm proud of you. Great research!
Also There is a new test for Lymes I have to find my notes and will run it by you. It's suppose to be the most accurate but I may be behind the times. Talk soon! Big Hugs 0happyday
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Post by life on May 15, 2007 22:33:59 GMT -5
Hi Bugsy~~
I just read through this thread. I'm sorry to hear about all you're going through with your pooch and kitty-kat maybe too.
I just wanted to add something about the lice.
A nurse, I'm met, who has Morgellons got it from her daughter, who contracted lice at her school. She, her daughter, and her son all got the lice -- they were incredibly difficult to get rid of.
About a month after they finally got rid of the lice (although from what I understand, she still finds them on her son several years later), they all came down with Morgellons.
Her husband does NOT have this -- he never got the lice either by the way.
Perhaps there's a nano-something that has effected the bugs/lice/phorid flies which has altered them somehow. We get bit, and, well, you know the rest..... I still wonder if it is a chemtrail thing. The lower life forms would be altered first.
Just thoughts.
Mostly, I wanted to say how badly I feel for you -- having to consider giving up your pooch.
Blessings and hugs, life
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Post by bugsy on May 16, 2007 14:24:32 GMT -5
Thanks life. I think I saw your friends story in "Morgie of the Month" or someone very similiar.
~Bugsy
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Post by wildanimal on May 20, 2007 19:10:33 GMT -5
I hope you you don't blame this s..it on your animals !!!!!!!!!!!!!It's not their fault!!!
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Post by life on May 21, 2007 1:14:42 GMT -5
Hi Bugsy~~
Yes, that is my friend.
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