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Post by nojjy on Jul 15, 2010 21:00:43 GMT -5
I have a close friend who has now been following Dr. Staninger's protocol for 3 months. She purchased a $4000 infrared sauna, etc. Dr. Staninger has told her she has cured patients with Morgellons disease; yet, when my friend -- whose symptoms have not abated 1 degree -- asks for the names and telephone numbers of a few patients Dr. Staninger has cured -- she is stonewalled. It would seem to me that for most Morgellon sufferers who contact Dr. Staninger looking for help -- especially those who commit to her treatment protocol -- asking for referrals would be pretty standard procedure. The fact that Dr. Staninger has yet to provide my friend with the names and numbers of patients she claims to have cured bothers me and more importantly my friend is losing confidence in the treatment considering her conditions persist: burning, searing pain; fibers coming through her skin, etc. For the burning, searing pain -- Dr. Staninger has recommended applying olive oil. My friend says it maybe helps a little but doesn't really relieve the burning. Does this sound like a professional who is successfully treating Morgellons disease? Olive oil?
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Post by nojjy on Jul 16, 2010 17:33:54 GMT -5
Also, I find it curious in reading the summary of the March 2010 Morgellon annual conference that there is no mention of Dr. Staninger. It appears she was not a keynote speaker and in the summary of the conference -- new announcements regarding treatments, CDC progress, and the main talking points of or highlights of the conference fail to mention one word about Dr. Staninger or her Morgellon treatment protocol. Isn't that a bit strange? Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Post by billc on Aug 28, 2010 13:32:06 GMT -5
the olive oil in staninger's protocol is oxygenated olive oil and not plain olive oil. Your friend is lucky she/he could afford the sauna. Many people will die from the nanotechnology that suffocates the cells if they cannot detox their body from this. This is bio-warfare. I heard that the people who are spreading this from chemtrails are making the nano harder to remove from the body. I don't think your friend has many choices. Most so called experts with exception of staninger are being paid off to be silent. Or they think it is a parasite..and the parasite issue is very secondary to the multiplying nanotechnology that deprives the body of oxygen after a while and causes cancer. She wouldn't have had several attacks on her life if she wasn't on the right track. Most of the other forums on morgellons are run by the same people who are doing the poisoning. They are only up to monitor people like lab rats and there are people in the forums who are there specifically to smear the names of good doctors like staninger. They do not want people to find help in ridding their body from this. If your friend is not getting relief she may have the new improved nanotechnology compliments of the mass murderers who are spraying this on us and spraying the clothing with it before we purchase it. And putting it in our food and water. Maybe she should contact the doctor and up her protocol. Don't smear the name of someone who is saving lives. And be very weary of the doctors prescribing antibiotics. You can't fight a poison with more poisons. Plus, some of those doctors are working for the poisoners with the intentions to just monitor us like animals in a laboratory. The same people where hired to monitor aids people after our govt created the aids virus. Everyone in the world is getting infected with the fibers. See clifford carnicom's research. everyone he has tested has it in their bodies. The only way to release it is detoxification. There is not other way. Using prescriptions drugs just poison the body and never cure anything. And most of the people at the morgellons conference do not know what morgellons really is anyway. It' s a bunch of B.S.
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Post by shubot on Aug 30, 2010 1:53:24 GMT -5
Nojjy,
I am under Dr Hildy's her care and I can tell you before I started her treatments, I felt like I was dieing. Like something was inside moving around and consuming me.
It takes time to detox. Some people have more than others and it takes longer to detox. Is she doing everything or just the sauna?
The Willard water is very important to melt the plastic, the Opaline speeds up the detox and restores your cells, the other treatments all work together to make you better.
Please pm me with your friend's phone number and I will be happy to call her and talk to her. I think Dr. Hildy did not give out her patients name and phone number is because she wanted to protect their privacy. I am her patient and I will talk to your friend.
shubot
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Post by shubot on Aug 30, 2010 2:01:35 GMT -5
Hi, Billc and welcome here.
Thank you for standing up for Dr. Hildy. Some how I must have missed this thread when it was posted. Are you one of her patients?
You sound like you are well informed in this area. I would like to know more about the new chemtrails they are spreading that is making it harder to get it out of our bodies. Can you tell us what they are putting in it now or anything else you may know about it, please?
Keep posting
shubot
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Post by sarahconnor on Aug 30, 2010 5:50:13 GMT -5
Hi billc,
I too would like to know more, as much as you can tell us & feel comfortable about. What you said makes such a lot of sense.
thanks sarah
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Post by billc on Aug 31, 2010 2:09:03 GMT -5
I apologize if i come off harsh. I am very angry about this situation. I heard that the nano that is being spread now has hooks on them..to make it harder to detox. But i'm told not to worry and that it still can be released from the body..it just may take a little longer. This stuff does take time to get out. We don't know how long this has been multiplying in our bodies prior to it exiting the skin, when we then can visually see it. I go back and forth with being agitated to extremely furious about this situation. My fury is with the doctors and family members that were supposed to help..not turn on us. I know that most people have this stuff growing in their bodies. And i sure hope the doctors who treated me with disrespect get the new hooked nano. Dr. Staninger is the only one that i truly believe is looking out for us. And yes, it does take a bit to start recovering from this. I think she is doing the best she can. She upped my protocol recently and gave me some new stuff that she has. She has alot of new things to take ..herbs and homeopathics and such. I am very grateful to her and get infuriated when people slam her. I know her heart is in the right place. I think morgellons is nanotechnology but i do think that there are viruses and fungi and sometimes parasites involved as well. It's good to hit them all with different herbs i believe. I also like clifford carnicom's idea using baking soda, lemon juice, vegetable glycerin and vitamin c. I've used that on my skin and the solution turns to a greenish/black after about 30 minutes so it's pulling something up from my skin. I think the far infrared pushes the materials out of the cells but sometimes they get stuck in the tissues. So i then use the oxygen baths, chac mool foot baths from staninger and then the ozonated coconut oils on my skin and then cliff carnicom's baking soda mixture (sodium citrate). I have also studied natural health. If things are not detoxing then some of the organs are being overwhelmed. Therefore, i do the colon cleanses several times a day and use liver, kidney herbal tonics to help. Liver/ gallbladder cleanse as well. Also, i have found that if i eat or drink the gmo food i get itchy and uncomfortable or if i use unfiltered water then i get the zaps. I'm also considering doing a veggie juice fast or a water fast to move things out faster. This whole thing is so annoying and frustrating. It doesn't make things easier knowing that websites like morgellonswatch and morgellons-disease-research are probably controlled by the people who are spreading this crap. Be wary of those forums. Notice how they bash staninger b/c they don't want her helping people.
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Post by amron on Aug 31, 2010 13:21:18 GMT -5
Hi... I understand your overwhelming disgust with this condition thats more powerful in hanging on each day. I noticed this am that the subtrainian morgies that surface and come out, dont have the surface dwellers much stronger hook, I wrestled with four of them this am, twisting and turning, clock wise and counter clockwise. Yes, they are double tuff, stronger than a year ago. The pain of tugging makes me sweat. I know it so impossible to tell who is who anymore, foe or friend, but we need one another, so if the sinister have plural objectives on this sight, I say we need to ignore it. This is our information channel and I for one find that each day the general public gets dumbed down, more and more. God Bless Amron
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Post by sarahconnor on Aug 31, 2010 23:41:14 GMT -5
Hi billc,
Thanks for posting again. I admire your dedication to your recovery. Don't apologise for coming across harsh, I have to hold myself back these days as I too am so very furious.
Do you have any links about this new hook nano thing? I could always google myself, though I lack motivation & some days I just don't want to think about this horror. Any info. you have would be greatly appreciated.
p.s. I agree with you, people shouldn't slam a person for trying to help those who are sick & suffering. Dr Staninger is switched on, she believes this is real, she knows this is real. I'm not a patient of Dr Staninger's as I live in Australia. However, I have tried the Far Infrared sauna which I found very helpful, wish I could afford to buy one! I hope to be starting on the Opaline Dry Oxy caps soon...my other half has promised me he will order them!! All going well I should have the Opaline in 4 wks.
Thanks again & best wishes sarah
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 1, 2010 2:09:46 GMT -5
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Post by shubot on Sept 1, 2010 12:58:49 GMT -5
Billc
I agree, Dr. Hildy is helping us and she has already helped so many others to get well. She is also a very kind and generous person. I don't like to hear those comments about her from nojjy.
I know you need more that just a sauna to get well. I am wondering if maybe something else is going on with this persons friend, I also suspect maybe they are coming from the other side.
I am willing to talk to them because I will tell them how very sick I was until I began getting help from Dr. Hildy. Her therapy has been working for me just fine, The problem I have is that I am slow detoxer and cannot tolerate detoxing too fast.
Sarah, Thanks for the links...very interesting. My first thought was if the nanos are self-replicating and they are putting them inside the body, wouldn't hat cause accumulation and blockages in the blood vessels and strokes wherever they migrate to?
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 1, 2010 16:38:48 GMT -5
shubot, I'm no scientist, but what you say makes sense. I think the nano has been around a lot longer than we'd like to think.
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Post by amron on Sept 2, 2010 3:28:13 GMT -5
Hi Girls, Since I have been detoxing my hand, and the extremely large amount debri has come out, in about fifteen settings. Deductive reasoning tells me, one, that this is the Mother sight, or this is many years of an entire body filled at joint areas. All the pain from MS and Osteoprosis, fibermyalgia, arthritist, ulcers, degerative spinal bones, broken bones, mental Illness, from a myriad of specialists in many in numerous states have made wrong diagnosis. Well meaning doctors wanting to help and give the REAL symptoms a name, have bungled it. Now that we have the tech, I wish they would come clean with what they know. I am a nobody, and I can figure this out. My heart is pretty involved now, leaky valves, uncontrolable rythms. High blood pressure, balance gone like a listing ship at sea. Bones popping and grinding like a halloween skelton, and I am pretty overweight. Blood is so thick that coumidin has to be regulated. I would say yes in the afirmative, we are getting stopped up. I would hate to think that my heart and brain looked like the tons of stuff I got out of my hand. Reality is...thank God I dont know more than I can digest at this time. I for one, dont want to be told that the infestation is so pervasive. The secret is becoming mum with me. More knowledge is a questionable commodity for me. I am a real human not a spirit, and I am not able to handle the emotional bleed out, that comes with my chicken heart,cluck cluck. LOL
That's the page I am on today, a little mental health reality. Mabey tomorrow I can return to the conquering hero, today I will take dumbed down and run with it. Nite guy's
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Post by shubot on Sept 2, 2010 13:06:09 GMT -5
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Post by shubot on Sept 2, 2010 13:07:56 GMT -5
shubot, I'm no scientist, but what you say makes sense. I think the nano has been around a lot longer than we'd like to think. Sarah, I do believe this stuff is blocking up are arteries and our brains as well.
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 2, 2010 17:27:27 GMT -5
shubot, yes I know, at times my denial gets the better of me.
amron, sorry you're having such a rough time. You are in my thoughts - sarah x
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Post by amron on Sept 3, 2010 23:49:46 GMT -5
Hi Girls, Every days a new beginning, thank God. Sorry I sounded so pathetic, I wasn't looking for sorrys. You know when I get like I was the other night spillling the beans, so to speak, I have usually been scared with a shocking new reality, that I am mad as h.... about. Licking my wounds and bitching, with this condition, can get tiring, forgive.
I am a survivalist, my God gives me courage.
Now lets do UFO's, under all the morgellons, is my primary fear that it's all about abductions that went on for I'd say thirtyfive yrs. Back in the sixtys it was super scary to admit to UFO's, the state hospital had quite an inventory of filled beds, of UFO abduction confessors. I didn't want to be locked up and have them swallow the key. Consequently I told know one. I'm still not to comfortable sharing this bit of revelation. The last time in early ninety five, I had a gassley needle stuck in my head it looked like about four inches. I went kicking and screeming, to no avail. It was the short greys, and I was close to awake, so my memory is green. I think this stuff, morgellons, is the product of advanced tech. (perhalps) this is how we became the tip of the iceburg and others will follow very soon, (God Help Them)These guy's are like Dr. Mengala, the mass murderer. Mabey they chose me because I was so dumb. Who knows, it could be a interesting horror story. Rambling again, I'm really scared that I am a district nine, mutant that is just beginning to show its skin yuck. Oh God, what a thought. The changes in morphing cant be an easy happening, of course we would be in for some devastating pain on all levels of human origon. Everyone can laugh and I could give a hoot, I have carried this crap in my phycic far too long. Its fitting that our services have linked arms and shared planet earth with the experimintors, for advanced tech. I'm not suprised at all about our amazing leaps in the last fifty years, but guys you dont get something for nothing, and we could have been offered up. Gotta LOL if I didn't know me I'd think I was groosly insane. If my shrink sees this, he will up my phycotics
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 4, 2010 3:06:42 GMT -5
amron, you didn't sound pathetic , you sounded like you were suffering. I can't fake it, I said "sorry" to you because I truly felt for you. Give me half a chance & I reckon I could beat you in a ramble! As for thinking you're as mad as a h....... I feel that way about myself, truly sucks, oh yeah. You don't sound mad! Do I sound mad to you? I read in a book that back in the 80's UFO's were a topic of discussion amongst the mental health professionals. It was decided that to exposure the truth to the public would be more detrimental to society, our health etc. I wish I could type the actual paragraph from my book, if I did I would be in trouble for copyright. These days I do get scared to say "boo" on the internet. My fear is history repeating it's self, however far worse than the last. For example: "someone" is going to arrange for me to be locked up. My worse fear is my son being taken. I'm only human.
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Post by awake on Sept 4, 2010 11:17:28 GMT -5
I got to admit i have been suspicious of Dr. staninger for while. I really have i hard time believing that anyone from main stream medicine, and who is as high up in the field as she is has got our best interests in mind. I am not at all saying that she is not on our "side" so to speak. Just very suspicious. We have to be careful and as mindful as possible. We don't know if we are being exploited in some OTHER medical experiment in the form of treatment. Everything today tends to be controlled opposition.
I Know the alien/ufo discussion is off-topic for this subject, but i got to say my thoughts on this too. I do firmly believe we have been explioted by other worldly beings... our ancient history speaks of vistations a lot. The ancient civilizations had many contacts with "alien" beings. You can easliy see there is a clear pattern of people interacting with these beings...
I don't buy into the "friendly" alien theory either. People have had horrfic encounters with these beings and there intention is always to conduct experiments on us and implant us with devices...etc.
This is where i'm REALLY going to sound crazy...but you can handle it. I don't believe in the evoluiton theory of creation...I do believe in the bible however. It is said that a house is build by a builder it does not create it's self...god is the architect of the universe and all of what is in it. This means too that ALL life in the universe must of been created by an all powerful god. Aliens to are just creations.
I believe that the bible speaks of aliens too. Only it does not call them ailens...as such. It does mention "fallen angels" however and i believe these are the beings we are dealing with today. I said this was going to sound crazy, but this is my take on it. ALL "aliens" are fallen... The bible says they were "kicked" out of heaven.
If all this sounds totally crazy then i understand. You have to be willing to step out of the box want is being contained within an even bigger box...that's the easiest way i can put it. It like an onion with many layers, you have to do a lot of searching to get to the center...
Many of our "religions" today are based of on these aliens. Because they are fallen they want mankind to worship them as our creators.
The Bible says we have to choose who we follow. We either follow fallen angels...ie the "so called friendly aliens" or we accept that there IS a god...a god of LOVE AND OF JUSTICE. The one whos name was incorretly translated as jesus, Those real hebrew name is YAHUSHUA.
All it boills down to is who will you follow and love? A test of faith and comitment in the face of so much chaos and persecution.
I hope aleast some of this will make sense and you will see this is not an act of intolerance.
Everyone has the right to freedom. so be free...
Awake
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 5, 2010 0:01:37 GMT -5
We ARE being exploited in some other medical experiment, (aka) "the google machine"...
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Post by shubot on Sept 5, 2010 0:21:11 GMT -5
Amron, Thank you for sharing your feelings and experiences with us. That is what we are are here for, for each other, and to offer support where ever we can. You are not pathetic, you are normal, and you are real.
We have all had experiences that others have not had and they may sound weird or strange to some, but not to all. I have suspected ET or UFO involvement for a long time. I have also had the strange things happen to me during the night while I am asleep, only to wake up with the unexplainable markings on my body and the sand in my bed. I have accused my husband of doing weird things to me while I was asleep that didn't make sense and he would get very upset with me because he was innocent.
I suspected that aliens sprinkled the Morgellons dust over my yard because I became ill while working in the soil in my back yard. You are not the only one who has these thoughts and feelings and you are right you are not insane.
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Post by shubot on Sept 5, 2010 0:31:06 GMT -5
Sarah, I have heard that too about the UFO being true but covered up because of the fear of public mass hysteria. I guess there is a possibility of that, but I believe the majority can handle it and would rather know the truth.
What did you mean by: These days I do get scared to say "boo" on the Internet. My fear is history repeating it's self?
And what did you mean by your response: We ARE being exploited in some other medical experiment, (aka) "the google machine"...
I am sorry if I am too dense to get it, maybe I am just tired tonight and if I read it tomorrow I will get it.
Thanks
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 5, 2010 0:50:14 GMT -5
I was cyber bullied by Morgellons Watch.
Once again, I was cyber bullied by Morgellons Watch.
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Post by shubot on Sept 5, 2010 1:25:04 GMT -5
Awake,
I understand your being cautious as we should be, but Dr. Hildy is not like that. She is very dedicated to searching for the cause and cure of Morgellons. I am very thankful for all of her work and long hours of researched she has put in to her desire to help us.
She is not really in the main stream of medicine. She works through Toxicology and Integrative Medicine and as I understand it, she treats patients as a whole. She she is very kind, friendly, generous, and truly concerned about the those she helps. No, she is not perfect as none of us are. I am not cured yet, but at least 80% of my symptoms are gone and I continue to improve. I will be forever thankful to her for that. Now my life is livable again.
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Post by shubot on Sept 5, 2010 1:34:02 GMT -5
Sarah, Thanks for the answer. If you feel like talking about it, I would like to know what happened. I was unaware of that.
I thought I better modify this because I do not want to be their next Victim.
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 5, 2010 18:04:06 GMT -5
They brain washed me into believing I had DOP.
Thanks sarah
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Post by shubot on Sept 7, 2010 14:31:09 GMT -5
Sarah, I am glad you found your way back to the truth and to us. Shame on them. They have caused so much pain and suffering emotionally to the Morgellons community with their attempt to debunk Morgellons. I am sorry you were one of their victims.
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Post by sarahconnor on Oct 18, 2010 23:30:23 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Just wanted to share a link I received today; Hildegarde Staninger Interview on TV Out of therewww.tanker-enemy.tv/hildegarde-staninger-interview-video.htmI found this interview to be the most informative, truthful & easy to understand explanation about Morgellons Syndrome. Thank you Dr Staninger
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Post by notananomaly on Nov 17, 2010 21:59:19 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
I Just wanted to add to the testimonials by saying that I also have experienced tremendous recovery using Dr. Hildy's products and protocols. She has always been very kind, compassionate and professional with me and encouraged me to get my degree in naturopathic medicine. She also gave me the contact information of several of her patients, and others I was able to meet in her office. I am sure if you contact her she would be happy to give you some contacts. You are also free to contact me and I would be happy to share more about my experience as a patient of Dr. Staninger's with morgellons.
Courtney
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Post by lillybet on Dec 27, 2010 17:37:47 GMT -5
This is going to cause a screaming uproar, but first Dr Staninger is a naturopath (you become one thru taking a course)not a doctor of medicine ie MD However she charges much more than my M.D's. Her product line is very costly indeed and I for one could not handle those costs. I would not go if I could afford it even tho' she is down the road from me. I sort of feel that the person she is helping most is herself. Of course you would be charming to people who are giving you wads of cash; that keeps the pipe line open! Thats all i'm saying for now. Its my first post and i expect to be torn to pieces. before u do just remember that we do have freedom of speech in the US.
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