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Post by jesusheals on Aug 18, 2008 23:54:39 GMT -5
Dear Friends, In case you didn't know, I've created a blog regarding my position on Morgellons. I humbly invite all of you to take a look at it. You can also pursue my method of healing & deliverance from this affliction by way of the provided links (Welcome Blog). Also, I really like the video on the home page - I hope you guys check it out! God bless. www.myspace.com/christ_heals_morgellons In Christ Jesus, Greg
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Post by downunder on Aug 21, 2008 22:19:10 GMT -5
Hi jesusheals jesusheals - yes He does - no question whatsoever on this and in mysterious ways. If God's hand is in it the healing is either: -immediate -in very mysterious ways - not always immediate depending on God's purpose. He is with me always - thankyou Jesus.
- He has opened the door, put a suitcase in my hand and sent me running to "where to I did not know" 6 months ago. His purpose is now clear as to why it had to be and it happened in an "instant". All along the way when crisis has occurred - penniless, homeless, He has opened a door. Where I am going I still do not know - but He does and I know the doors will keep opening. - He has expanded my mind on the overall picture of Morgellons and led me to "some" answers. - Morgellons is evil - yes - through Man's Greed and belief they can change nature (of God) while simultaneously destroying it trying to either "be God" or insatiable Greed and yes, those things are of the evil one.
- I am still homeless in reality, not quite penniless but close to it but I do not feel "I cannot cope with life anymore" "I cannot cope with Morgellons anymore" - it's quite strange actually - I feel FREE and excited about what is just around the corner - I know it's going to be unexpected and fantastic. - Christ is my strength - picks me up and moves me forward to where I do not know and that's EXCITING.
Here's something jesusheals will relate to - I have fought Satan off 3 times in my lifetime - scary, yes, not now. The third and last time was truly a physical fight off - crazy, no. Jesus and the Holy Spirit were with me ie in spirit and I just kept praying The Lord's Prayer. Satan "let go" and knows I belong to Jesus - he will not bother me again and has no power over my life. I will not give Satan an "inch" my focus is on Jesus.
What is happening to me and in my life is NOT Satan - external factors are but they are not directed at me personally. I know I had to run - knew all along but the timing was not mine - I knew in an "instant" - here is your answer - GO.
I give all the glory to God for everything good in my life and I know Morgellons will be resolved - it maybe a great Politician(s) emerging putting things in place in agreement with others to fix the problem for all - or a great Doctor(s), Scientist(s) God moves through for good.
Thank You Jesus.
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Post by jesusheals on Aug 22, 2008 0:43:52 GMT -5
I appreciate your response Downunder. I'm glad you have been able to overcome the enemy's past assaults on your life. Your situation may not be caused by a direct demonic attack; I'm willing to admit that. However, I have been involved with numerous deliverances (or exorcisms), both personally and on behalf of others, and can say very comfortably that Christians can be severely oppressed by evil spirits.
There's a saying that originates from the New Testament that states, "You reap what you sow." Meaning (in the negative aspect), if you involve yourself with evil then you run the risk of experiencing the consequences of your actions. This seems simple enough to understand right? But the question then becomes - so what is evil?
According to many post-modern thinkers, what may be evil for you may not necessarily be evil for me. Thus, a man who preys on underage boys to receive sexual pleasure may genuinely think that his behavior is completely acceptable, when someone like myself would find his actions detestable.
So where do we go to find a basis for what is right or wrong? What source has been used by western-culture for centuries as a foundation for law and ethics? The Holy Bible naturally. So, in my humble opinion, when God (for example), by way of scripture, commands us to avoid mediums, astrologers, fortune tellers, and necromancers etcetera (the occult), and we choose to disobey this command, we risk reaping the consequences of our actions. And what are the consequences for occult participation? --> Demonic oppression. And what does this mean? According to scripture, the devil comes to "kill, steal, and destroy (John 10:10)." Thus, if you have either intentionally or unintentionally opened a door to the demonic realm, the result will surely be some degree of destruction (financially, physically, and mentally).
Do I believe that every single person suffering from Morgellons is doing so because of spiritual affliction? I just don't know... Do I believe that some (perhaps many) people suffering from Morgellons are demonically oppressed? 100% YES.
I believe this for many reasons, but the primary reason is because of my own experience with demonic oppression and the shock that I received by way of a news article that first exposed me to the details of morgellons. The same symptoms which caused me to visit a deliverance minister (who literally commanded evil spirits out of me in the name of Jesus), were now being packaged in this article as a strange new disease called morgellons --- and I have been on this forum ever since.
However, I truly thank God for Morph's recent, "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" comment. I definitely needed that.
I hope my post has not offended or caused undue grief for anyone. I just want you ladies and gentlemen to be healed and I truly believe that I have an idea of how that can occur.
God Bless, Greg
Job 31:3 (King James Version) Is not destruction to the wicked? and a strange punishment to the workers of iniquity? (another interesting coincidence...)
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Post by morph on Aug 22, 2008 2:53:54 GMT -5
Downunder, look ya went and did, you brought out da soul beater, you musta been one dat do da bad. I look in da mirror to see me cause I don't give a no road apples what I did, its what I do after I did, now I look in dat mirror see me, dat be da truth ! now ya give up dis bad doing i been hearin bout, den ya can see in dat mirror just like me, not jus like, cause you be a lady sinna, maybe ain't got no beard, I ain't say exactly you got no beard cause some do, ya could be one of dem to.
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Post by morph on Aug 22, 2008 5:05:27 GMT -5
'The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you'
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Post by shubot on Aug 22, 2008 18:06:09 GMT -5
MORPH We are all friends here! We do not treat each other this way. Your reply to Greg may be viewed as hurtful to him, and to other peoples' culture and dialect. Greg is a valued member of this group as much as anyone else. We all have a voice. We all have an opinion. Greg...........demon connection Shubot.......alien connection, chemtrails, GOV, GMO foods Awake........NWO, worms Whiterose...bloodlines, NWO, transhumanism Faith............Schistosomeasis Prevenge....triple strand DNA change, Morph..........Vietnam, war, parents, sex, Hansen's disease, ect... Plus: Nanotechnology, bacteria, mold, fungus, scabies, snails, birds, fish, mice, water damaged homes, filariasis, plant tumor disease... The list of possibilities seems endless! You see, we all have an opinion, of the cause of morgellons and the best of the treatments. Would you want someone to shoot down your opinion? No, you would not. We all listen to you, and your opinions, and if we do not agree with you, we try to express that in a kind polite way, or we just keep it to ourselves. Greg has the same right to express his opinion, and make himself available to those who want to partake of his help and guidance for deliverence. Downunder did not do anything bad. She responded to a post. Downunder gave us a wonderful heartfelt account of the spiritual experience she had and the difficult path she has gone down. There are not many brave enough to share these things with us. We are blessed to learn from her and Greg. Please see the value in this. Your friend, shubot
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Post by Awake on Aug 22, 2008 19:44:48 GMT -5
Morph... I believe in unity NOT divide and rule! surely someone with your intellect would see it from both sides. I share my views and opinions on this board but i except that all peoples views are VAILD and greg actually has a lot of good obverations into the spirtual realms of this afflition for we DO have to look beyond the box if we have any hopes of fully understanding it.
Awake
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Post by jesusheals on Aug 22, 2008 20:18:27 GMT -5
Thanks Shu I wasn't offended however. I'm personally happy that my stuff is being read. Besides, if I'm a "soul beater" for pointing out that confession/repentance is sometimes necessary in order to receive God's healing then I'm in very good company! 1. Jesus 2. John the Baptist 3. Peter 4. Disciples 5. Paul 6. Old Testament Prophets (etc) Having said that, it definitely DOES NOT give me thrills to point out sin in other people. I too am a work-in-progress... God Bless, Greg
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Post by shubot on Aug 22, 2008 22:20:35 GMT -5
Yes, Greg, You are right. I will try to clean it up a bit. Thank you for bringing me back to proper perspective.
Downunder, You did nothing wrong. Your post was beautiful and heartwarming, Thank you.
Awake, Thank you for keeping the focus on UNITY. We must stick together. You have a great way of reminding us of the importance of our strength TOGETHER, to keep us as a team . We all need each other to make us stronger as a whole.
Morph: I am sorry. I just think we can get our point across in a kinder way.
Love to you all, shu
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Post by downunder on Aug 23, 2008 3:10:23 GMT -5
Thanks Shubot - Morph, what can I say ha ha - gobbly-gook - but ALLS GOOD. Yes Greg does have the right to put forward his spiritual thoughts. Fact is, you don't have to read it if you don't wish to.
I simply have a different point of view and don't focus on the negatives such as sin because sin no longer exists for believers.
All the best Greg - I know your heart is in the right place and you genuinely want to help people.
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Post by morph on Aug 23, 2008 4:19:34 GMT -5
I can and will read everything, and my comments are my own thoughts on any matter, the brain and thinking is what seperates the primates from the fibrous material, they just want to eat and survive. I want to enjoy life and will debate any d**nation. People here are living already a kind of hell on earth, a positive word may help that all negative posts I will debate. Here is a nice site to listen to and read, it is all positive. Short but sweet. I hope it has somthing in it for you, see the cowboy for his rendition. A nice little break from all this, horror. www.thejoymovie.com/?SRC=080617
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Post by morph on Aug 23, 2008 7:17:24 GMT -5
Jesusheals, Greg I am not against at all your affection and devotion to the Lord Jesus Christ. Not at the least I just suppose you may look a little deeper down into his teachings, to give comfort to the afflicted, when you become the soulbeater, then it is not Jesus that you portray, you are Jobe's friends sitting around judging him, he that was special in the eyes of the lord, so special god put a mans devotion against the power of the devil himself, if you will notice, it was the DEVIL that afflicted the man with all kinds of disease, not god. The point when everything is good we do not look for god, when things go bad he is the instant friend. My hope, never will I stoop so low of character that I will run to god crying for myself in a moment of pain and suffering when I have not walked with him in the days of my blessings. Then there is another fact, some people can be brought lower by the talk of d**nation, people on the verge of suicide, many have this inclination, anymore negative side of anything will throw them off the edge. I myself would not give one young life for all the preaching in the world since the beginning of time, hal bop comet jumpers, Jim Jones, Waco, all had preachers, two were Christian preachers, who followed them. I'll tell you, normal everyday people, that believed in Jesus, was it Jesus fault they were murdered, NO, but was a devote man of god involved, YES. He who speaks salvation not always seeks it for themselves or delivers the truth, laymen almost always should keep it shut as they do more harm then good. Many are working from a side of self loathing, first one must accept all that is wrong with themselves and try to change, as I said before, then do not do what i did no more, or go and sin no more, then you can look in dat mirror. We all need some schooling but when i see you post the negative attributes of the teaching of the bible here i will jump in and debate, if its here its up for debate and ideas, and my idea is man will not burn in the fires of hell because if a simpleton like me can forgive my enemies, then the almighty can do better, that I am sure of. I mean me an downunder are just like brother and sister now, huh!!! Now that everyone yelled at me I got a funny feeling in my tummy, like snakes are in dat tummy. hey shubot one thing, a question, what race are you talking about offending who in the world would speak like my little didy but an idiot, hmmmmmmmmm, i listen to the young today trying to talk stupid and believe me they sound it, this from TV training that gangsta is gooda, they have dumbed down our children so there can be a cast society. It is not poverty that decides your fate the telivision DO! Years ago I heard my sweet young daughter singing a song in the car as we drove down the road, not paying so much attention to the words I rode along untill I heard some of the filth that she was spewing. I did not yell at her but I said, do you realise that this song is saying that women are nothing, they are to be used and treated like dirt, no more than a toy to play with then throw away, she said daddy its only a song. Right the words in the song are only words and the words in scripture are also only words, words, some times they are much more, depending on the listener!!!!!! I gots no ax to grind but there it is!!!!
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Post by jesusheals on Aug 23, 2008 16:52:54 GMT -5
Thanks for your well-thought response Morph. I also liked the "Joy Movie" by the way. I hope everyone takes time to look at it. It is really beautifully made and conveys many wonderful messages.
With respect to your comments, I think there is a small misunderstanding. It appears that my writings have been interpreted, at least by some of you, as "kicking a man when he is down." This is the absolute last thing I would ever want to do. For one thing, I am not coming here as an outsider (such as Job's friends). The primary reason I am here is because I have experienced many months of biting, stinging, crawling, pinching, burning, convulsions, and more.
Obviously, when this experience happens to you, it changes your life. I could say, "Okay, I'm much better now. So long & good luck folks." but that would not be right. On the contrary, it's my duty to share with you all the manner by which I was healed so that you too can experience freedom. Unfortunately, this process is very difficult and includes concepts that are not pleasant; such as, forgiving those that have wounded us (including ourselves), confessing our sins to God and asking Him to forgive us and cleanse us, turning from any practices that are contrary to His commandments and turning back to our Creator (e.g. picking up your cross and following Christ), and finally, what is perhaps most difficult, admitting that either you, or someone in your generational line, has opened up a door to the evil spiritual realm and then being willing to act upon it (by way of ministry).
I completely agree with you Morph that the Devil afflicted Job with sores (etc) not God. No, God is a good God. He wants us to be healed (Acts 10:38, Isaiah 53:5, and 61:1) and He has put a road-map in place so that this can be achieved. Is everyone healed and delivered? No. There are mysteries that will not be understood this side of eternity. However, if we diligently follow the road-map, we have a much better chance of experiencing God's deliverance (Hebrews 11:6).
My dear mother spoke to me often about what to do and what not to do in this life. She did this out of love and concern for me. Regrettably, I failed to follow many of her suggestions which would have saved me from a great deal of grief. Likewise, our Heavenly Father has lovingly given us a guide. This guide states in plain language the path we are to follow. If we stray from the path, there are countless adversaries that will pursue our destruction (Matthew 7:13).
I am NOT trying to kick you guys when you are down. I am trying to pick you up. With respect to your comment about not wanting to seek the Lord only when times are tough, I completely understand that. However, this is exactly what we desperately need to do. Should people wait until after they are healed to go to the doctor? No. Jesus said, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” - Mark 2:17
Have you ever heard the biblical story of the "Prodigal Son?" (Luke 15:11-23) In a nutshell, the Father gave his sons their inheritance. One of the sons (prodigal) took his inheritance and spent it in a faraway land on a sinful lifestyle. The son eventually wasted His inheritance and soon encountered problems in this land because of famine (e.g. sickness, destitute, heart-broken). The son eventually decided to go back to his Father and said to himself, "I will say to my Father that I am no longer worthy to be called your son. Please take me back as one of your hired servants." However, as the son was still a great distance away, the Father saw him and ran to him and kissed him and said to his servants, "bring out the best robe and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand and sandals on his feet. Let us eat and be merry. For My son was dead and is alive again!"
Finally, I too am a flawed man even though I am pursuing a holy life. The Bible says in 1st John 1:8, "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." Thankfully, God's wonderful grace protects us from many of our weaknesses. He does not discipline us (His children) according to the measure of our failings (praise God). God is long-suffering and full of mercy. Turn to Him friends. God bless.
in Christ Jesus, Greg
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Post by morph on Aug 23, 2008 19:58:41 GMT -5
I'm sorry if I have offended you Greg, I some times get a little excited, probably would have made a good preacher, LOL but please take into consideration one thing some very sad, sick, refused and turned away by everyone, no friends no family. the young face so many trials and tribulations now in this new world we live in. some come here as a last resort I am sure looking for understanding. If you are getting guidence from another maybe you should explain the desperation. I am old enough it don't bother me so much anymore, I am here to try to find out stuff and hopefully help others
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Post by downunder on Aug 23, 2008 23:54:14 GMT -5
Greg I don't disbelieve in Healing services - quite the opposite. Not into the expelling demon ones though. Prefer to keep my focus 100% on Christ for healing.
I love Paul's Epistles many I could quote but won't. The following are only to let you see where I am coming from and will not be moved you might say.
Ephesians 1:17-23 2:1-18
Morph - I hear you and I'm sure you walked with God in your blessings and I go straight to God in my hard times and believe that's what He expects - there is no-one else in reality only MAN.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God" (and always UNDESERVING).
Thank you Jesus again and again.
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Post by Awake on Aug 24, 2008 13:09:48 GMT -5
Shubot, if we were to put all those theories together in one post we would be ALOT closer to something that resembles the truth... Just throw in some nano-technology and GM, a global fascist government, chemtrails, aliens, demons, a DNA mutation and a few worms...LOLOLOL
And there you have it. ;D
Awake
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Post by downunder on Aug 25, 2008 1:58:02 GMT -5
Awake - you are right and not as silly as it may seem because I bet almost all you have listed have a contributing factor in the overall problem which in turn makes it look like a very complex matter. Nematodes need carbon dioxide to hatch - AND WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM? - the environment and what do we do? - BREATHE IT IN. And where else is it deposited? In our soils - and what grows in those soils? - food we eat and it goes on and on. Add in a few of genetically modified grubs and genetically modified food to that and who knows what you come out with. greenmethods.com/site/biocontrols/nematodes/
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Post by downunder on Aug 25, 2008 23:50:54 GMT -5
I think it's interesting in the above article that the nematode - seeks and tastes for a certain environment prior to entering the host AND further on the nematode makes it possible for the parasite to continue within the host.
Not an answer to the overall problem I am sure but it does explain to me anyway the presence of intestinal worms and I will continue to treat for them anyway - hopefully the parasite will then no longer wish to be present - who knows, not me but it's what I will go with for the moment together with strengthening the immune system. Also fits in with the parasite hitching a ride.
I have seen the fibre ball jumping and it was also witnessed by others at the time.
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