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Post by downunder on Aug 15, 2008 7:29:53 GMT -5
You really set a spark alight with the info re the bugs identified only live on plants. It's a funny thing I have often thought this thing reminds me of the sap sucking bugs on plants - scale, aphids etc. AND the only thing Sydney Uni identified other than the fibres was some "plant matter".
So I am now going to think l am a plant. What do you do with a sick plant? First thing is strengthen it's immune system naturally with natural fertilisers etc so it fights off bugs.
Always give Seasol (fish based) - to stressed plants does wonders. Work out soil - whether plant likes acid or alkaline soil and adjust accordingly.
At present my plants are all doing great - what have I done? Absolutely NOTHING for months - too much else going on. None of them have been sprayed with chemicals of any sort and the only thing they have had is Seasol and Potash (potassium).
Just gotta work out which plant I am - acid or alkaline but definitely INCREASING THE FISH OIL capsules and vitamins. Will let you know if this changes anything.
Thinking about it maybe my body is alkaline and the bug likes alkaline because VINEGAR works in that they get off, don't like it and that's ACID. The vinegar doesn't kill them but removes them.
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Post by debbied on Aug 15, 2008 15:36:47 GMT -5
One thing that is working for me that will probably gross you out is that I have stopped showering twice daily (as a plant, water feeds it) and I am showering twice a week. I am in a remission (nearly two weeks), and as I said I know it sounds gross, but I'm experimenting.
I too am going to start to not feed them from the inside.
Another thing, every night when I use my headlice comb, I fill the basin up with hot water and then add methylated spirits. I literally find they jump off into the water. I put soapy substance around the rim of the basin, because Iv'e noticed they are alive and try to escape. I have to wonder who else is witnessing the same, or maybe its time to lock me up in a mental ward.
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Post by debbied on Aug 15, 2008 15:43:18 GMT -5
Hi again Downunder, I chucked at what you say about becoming an undesirable plant. Smart thinking. I'm going to buy fishoil tabs today and other stuff. I already am using vinegar, but I wasn't overly excited by it. I also used baby oil from top of head and all over, but this triggered such a major attack which lasted 4,5,6 hours every time I used baby oil, that I gave this one up
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Post by sadsack on Aug 15, 2008 20:12:22 GMT -5
debbied - How do you mean "remission"? What did you experience that you no longer do? What remains (besides the lice that you mentioned)? SS
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Post by morph on Aug 15, 2008 21:55:23 GMT -5
Here is another epiphany, these underskin colonies have an ability to regulate blood flow, thus when you attack them with some drug or natural compound they can close off this spincter and and sample the compound to adapt over time. Antibiotics treatment is usually 7 to 14 days, these colonies have so many layers of egg, fibrous like material, big near the skin and on the bottom fine younger egg, fibrous like material. The orrife allows them to subject themselves slowly for some sort of immunity, better yet they miss the whole treatment and only the blood born disease is eliminated. Then each time after antibiotic treatment it becomes stronger and stronger with new immunitys to drugs and any compounds, the compounds it does not seem to build immunity to ARE CALLED ALLERGENS, the effect of Allergens disturbing only an infected person. The reaction of allergies is a responce of an infected person. Here is a question to ask any allergy suffing adult, when did you become allergic to so many things. I have heard the lot of them say, I never had allergies when I was a child, then all of a sudden I was allergic to everything. Thats right! Uh hu, an epipany that actually stoped me from going out the door on a Friday night.Here is another, when doing GSE make sure you take antioxidents, C, E, Beta Caratine and the likes, I noticed a little brain fog. Yup Yup
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Post by downunder on Aug 15, 2008 22:48:55 GMT -5
Hi again debbieD - thanks for the info. Very early i.e. in the beginning of it all, things that came off me seemed alive i.e. they moved thus thought I was dealing with lice. For the last 6 mths anything that comes off me "doesn't move" as if already dead. The only area where anything appears to move or be alive is on the hair strands. When one falls out in combing e.g. you can see it is alive but in fact its not, it's the fibre found attached to the hair that makes it move.
It is my belief, in my case anyway, that when you comb hair they come from the scalp to the hair strands, end up at the end and then look for a "way in". I have also noticed when my attack gets rid of the intestinal problem and no more tummy rumbling, flatulence etc together with less and less found on the body - the "attack" always begins again at the scalp and the rest of the body good.
The Pinetarsol definitely draws out what is beneath but only use it about once a week.
I actually think you may have something there about reducing the watering because that's another thing with my plants at present - have only watered them once in 6 months - wasn't on my agenda.
Still going to work on becoming a bit more acid. Someone around me who I am sure has this but is in denial, has no itching etc, no lesions, no worm type things and is a big salt and acid food eater. Eats tomatoes like they are going out style, pickled onions, and loads the salt on everything - also doesn't shower as much as I think they should - interesting isn't it.
Allergies: funny thing is they seem to have disappeared.
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Post by downunder on Aug 15, 2008 22:52:36 GMT -5
Oh Morph forgot - maybe the acid thing has something to do with the success of the Grapefruit seed extract - don't know but grapefruit is acidic.
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Post by morph on Aug 15, 2008 23:08:38 GMT -5
One last thing, the little freckles that are getting all over your body are possibly never endings, BUT for some reason they have an actual large amount of blood being delivered to them. I say one of these eggs is finally let loose in the system, THEN it travels along untill it comes to a spot it can not go thru, THE SKIN CAPILLARIES, it stops there blocing blood flow but getting enough to grow, the body or the invader wants to make it easy for more blood to flow so it puts out the yellow goo making a vein grow in size, more blood, larger infestation, the freckle is the site where the blood comes in, most of these colonies develope one or two outs for the larger in vein. The out spot you will not see untill late in the game. Shubot you have said you saw the triangle shape on your face, the dots in this are the blood lines, I have opened them and exposed the whole beast many many many times. There are 4 kinds I have found, small, a little tiny red or brown spot that if picked will bleed profusely, a cigar shaped lesion with a delivery vein on one end you can see and the return line you can not see untill you dig deeply. The triangle with three lines, Then there is the mass connected, city, the city covers a large area, up to 3 inches square of these smaller ones that have bonded by growing together. My left arm was destroyed by smaller ones that fought my attack, but by far the biggest CITY was on the right arm. You can say, I do not have what he is saying, I have not seen this, I assure you my skin looked perfect before they erupted and I decided if the doctor will not see them or remove them I WILL and I did. Ladies the best thing to do is attack them from inside. The GSE and also MSM will at the least keep them from growing they do NOT like the taste, LOL, neither do I.
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Post by downunder on Aug 16, 2008 0:46:47 GMT -5
Agree fighting from the inside a must. No I have not had what you are describing but yes, have had all the shapes COME OFF or fall off - maybe I started my fight inside earlier Morph, don't know - pray I did and I am so pleased you are so much better. You are right though as you expressed in another post - you do have more expendable money than I for sure. I have to stick to the simple but I do believe it is working. Definitely going to get some Grapefruit seed extract when I can as it fits into my "acid" thoughts on the bug. Have you seen this - probably have: www.members.shaw.ca/rolfwitzsche/canada/morgellons_fibre_disease.html
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Post by smoothdeb on Aug 16, 2008 1:50:50 GMT -5
Hello my friends, just today I bought a black light, the kind I had in the early 70's. I looked at my face, tip of nose, chest, ears, hair, arms, pupils, and alot of other places I refused to look, I was scared. The black light showed the white white markings, that don't rub off. I guess they are the Morgellons. I will write this and then go spray my body with Vermii from Dr. Hildy, shower, use Benkolide chloride foam (sp) hand soap in foam only thing that kills the mold, and then I will lay under the far infra red lights for 4 to 8 hours and pray. I have heard about the grapefruit extract and guess I better get it. I don't have any open areas, I take anti-itch medications ever since this nuts started. Hydroxyzine or atarax, now progressed to benzodiazapines, whatever it takes. My internal medicine doctor is my hero. And Dr. Hildy use to be but she doesn't have time to answer my emails anymore. I don't think we will ever find a cure, will we? ? Cuz I feel like my body is not my own anymore. Love, Deb in South Dakota
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Post by debbied on Aug 19, 2008 21:18:15 GMT -5
Hi Sadsack,
In response to what I do differently (cause I'm experiencing a remission)
1. Only shower twice week 2. Take sleep medications when the sun is going down (approximately 5-6pm). Being asleep when everything usually is going crazy, seems to be working. I wake up in the morning without experiencing any night time activity and has been working now (am on my 3rd week remission).
I still experience slight movement, and I've got the feeling that I'm headed toward an attack, but the 2+weeks break has been critical mentally.
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Post by downunder on Aug 21, 2008 7:38:28 GMT -5
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Post by downunder on Aug 21, 2008 19:50:00 GMT -5
debbieD and the FOURTH "unidentified" parasite present with all 3 of the others may suggest it hitching a ride
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Post by debbied on Aug 22, 2008 23:39:27 GMT -5
Hi Smoothdeb,
I agree wholeheartedly about the 'Never finding a cure'. If there is no cure in sight for other central nervous diseases, such as Multiple Sclerosis or Rheumatoid Arthritis, how can I ever expect any resolution with Morgs.
Does anyone know how the progression of this disease is going to happen.
I have only had Morgs for 8 maybe 9 months.
I have read that this disease is systemic and progressive in the way it attacks the central nervous system. I do lose my vision during every attack and also experience muscle spasms, neck, shoulder blades, and arms become quite painful.
Thanks Debd
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Post by debbied on Aug 22, 2008 23:44:14 GMT -5
Hi Morph,
I am compelled to do the same as you during an onslaught - try to get these things out and yes they look similar to freckles or big moles or a line of freckles. Sometimes these things are half in and half out, so I can get a pair of tweezers and pull them out. What is really stressing me out is that sort on my scalp, it is raised and quite large, and hair has stopped growing in the area and its getting bigger, instead of healing.
Thanks Debd
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Post by morph on Aug 23, 2008 0:46:48 GMT -5
Debbied , the spot that is growing is the colony coming to the surface, it covers more of an area than you can imagine, I know not everyone has money to have this sort of thing cut out but it is the easiest way, followed by topical GSE treatment. If they cut it out make sure they take all of it, tell them after they have cut what they feel is all treat it with 33% peroxide and then and only then will they see all that is involved, the plastic in the lesion will turn white, the blood delivery veins will stay red. they also need to laser the veins that fed it shut. untill it does not bleed at all. The reason I say to get rid of the big ones is they lend to making lots of little ones. and also lthe big ones put out LOTS of the yellow fluid. If they treat the open wound with hydrogen peroxide when the big one is cut out you will see all the little ones on the head after and you can go after them with full strength GSE. I have removed most of them from my head, the one on the side of the head they blame on cell phones was there before cell phones were popular. It is hard to get it all out, DEEP. There is also one on the back of the neck, one inch into the hair line. These are common places as I look at the shaved heads of men. they develope long in your systems inside before they show on the outside, yes indeed.
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