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Post by downunder on Oct 21, 2008 22:21:18 GMT -5
Never had that stuff as a kid and have never had the yellow goo in the past or even now.
I wonder why you still have brain fog morph - that's weird especially with your improvement.
I have been very much into vitamins/health for 10-15yrs - was into it long before it became a "fad" and have read up a lot in these areas. I changed much in diet, what's in the cupboard, what goes into the mouth etc many years ago. Much of what I am doing now is no different to any of the latter - just more of it and with additions directed at this problem.
I know you are on a particular track morph and that's fine - appreciate all you offer and all you have done in the past to fight this. I don't believe mine came initially from the inside. What I have seen come off and out of me I have seen on the outside of me in a number of areas. I will leave it at that.
You are very much more into the fine detail. I am very much a from the gut person - it never lets me down and I have to follow it. I do investigate all things possible and possible linkages - doesn't mean I will come up with the answer. In fact I believe there is no "one answer" to this and that it doesn't actually mutate but goes through life cycle changes and differences occur due to different environmental exposures, individual body makeups etc - having said all that even with the differences there is most definitely a "sameness" experienced by all.
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Post by morph on Oct 22, 2008 0:13:08 GMT -5
Come on you never had sleep in your eyes!!!!!! How many of you had sleep in your eyes as a child.
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Post by morph on Oct 22, 2008 0:33:55 GMT -5
I need to get out and walk at least and I have not been doing that, captured so long inside, stupid of me. I love the outdoors. I start tomorrow getting real things done. Have a few homes to rebuild. Money is not at its peak and I have no retirement need to do the work, or at least organize the contractors. You just cant trust them to do a good job.
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Post by Awake on Oct 22, 2008 8:27:34 GMT -5
I wish i was on the same road to impovment. I feel i am constantly fighting this thing and it keeps gaining ground over me physically and mentally. Since the overt symptoms of this i have been slowly declining. I don't believe for one miniute that it starts form the outside. It invades the whole body and dos get into the brain and has kind of a mental "interface"
I really don't see much hope for dealing long term with this. I am not in the position to even help myself. Morgelllons changes how you think and behave in ways that are hard to grasp. Looking at myself now from say two years ago i have completly changed. "brain fog" is not something that gos away with this disease. You slowly begin to lose intrest in things what were much more important in the past and you feel like isolating your self.
Then there's the "attacks" of being bittien and stung which can get very intene and are also accompaned with pain and a feeling of the joints tighting up and feeling "crakeley" esspecaily the finges and rists.
In all of this i have had no skin lesions. The only visible sign on the skin are small white patchs and brown crusty areas which are dotted in various places. These dis-coloured areas will actually move if i apply GSE to them. It dos not kill them they just move! Aother high concentration of this form is around my ankes and i have two large ones on my upper right leg. The two large ones have been there foe eight months. Could these brown areas be a precursor for the lesions? I don't know.
The scalp can also be a problem during a break-out. I have had layers of crusty "scabs" forming on my scalp form time to time. These can build up quite a bit and become gooy.
Awake
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Post by downunder on Oct 22, 2008 20:52:22 GMT -5
Hi awake - don't think mine is getting a chance to "establish" itself on the inside and I will not be convinced by anyone that it begins on the inside - sorry.
I have no answers but can only try and help with what I have experienced or had success with.
It's there now so I have to deal with it and prevent it's development - that's how I look at it. I keep wondering why the brain fog is still there for you and morph and using GSE. I know undoubtedly that the mebenzadole stops this with me. Meredith uses Albenzadole - ask her if brain fog improved for her on that - not sure.
I also know that when the layers are cleared right up to the hair line - your head immediately feels lighter - crazy, don't know and I have said it time and time again, that by doing this I do not have the past itching, biting, crawling - by the way, the black speck is down at the bottom layers and begins again on the top layers (from the outside).
The patches you refer to are the colonies morph often speaks of - I get them off and out daily via means I have already described. There is no doubt the inside (once they are there), needs to be attacked vigorously also.
I have no lesions either awake. I no longer find on my scalp what I once did - tiny worms (I actually think these tiny worms are more than likely larvae of some sort rather than actual worms). My theory only - if I get rid of the latter they cannot develop in their life cycle any further and there is no doubt that much of what I used to find in the beginning, no longer shows itself.
I also think that if a life cycle is involved eventuating in final development of adult "whatever" - more and more eggs will be laid - maybe millions. This of course then means that it will take MUCH TIME to erradicate from the system and that doesn't even take into account reinfestation.
Eventual immunity via strong immune systems is the only long term solution and creating an environment in which they no longer wish to reside - GSE I am sure creates that environment.
Of course Governments recognising the problem and dealing with it via cleaning up the environment and products put upon us would definitely go a long way toward resolution - BUT I WON'T HOLD MY BREATH.
This is what I make my daily attack: bacteria (natural or agrobacterium) fungi nematodes (natural or gm) host's internal and external environment
Just curious - has anybody had fungus gnats flying into their hair or around them? meaning - it didn't occur prior to this problem.
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Post by dalecase on Nov 9, 2008 22:20:20 GMT -5
hi downunder, I agree with you on many aspects of this. I don't believe the governments want to deal with it because they may have caused it. They probably did not realize the aftermath of what they created until to late and now don't know how to deal with it. I think they would find it is so wide spread it is scary. If you have morgellons and have kids of cause they will probably get it it is contagious. I never had the hair problem other then losing some.
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Post by dalecase on Dec 16, 2008 13:19:02 GMT -5
I want to apologize for being seeming insensitive to morgellons being contagious. I have been studing them everyday for two years. I have gone to several differnt cities and taken sample at several different business-hospitals resturants-grocery stores and department stores. this is what I found. first i have been using a microscope. there are red and blue fibers in every single place. OK, from there I studied the red and blue fibers they are dormant. I a year of watching fibers out side the body I found they seem to live only an extremely short time. I the body they do reproduce they have eggs and they grow out of these when they get so big they split into longer fibers. There are different ways of developing but they all have a basic growth pattern. I believe they are nano mixed with silicone and they crave a acid enviroment. That would explain why some poeple do not have them. Okaloma State University seems to be the leader in studing them. I believe as your body becomes more alkine the better the chance of getting rid of them. I also found that benadyl (blue) calms down the effects and that cloth tape pulls them out with out having to have a sore. I put the tape on an area that is starting to act up then I leave it there for a short while and then look under the microscope and find all kinds of fibers. there are orange,blue, red, green, purple and black the black spect are the black and cyrstal fibers in the devolpment stage of growing fibers. These fibers can irriate the skin enough because they live in a red goo that is very aciddy. that is what i believe cause an infection. Here is abit of hope they cycle, if you break the cycle them staart to diminish because you have dried up the gell. I do wash my body and hair with a detergent with bleach, I use sun with color bleach this seems to dry up the gell. No instant cure however since I have been practicing these to things the tape and the detergent I have not had any out breaks and my skin is becoming normal again. Morgellons seem to focus on the arms near elbows and the upper back and the leg calf. they also hit the sinsus. It seems like they are mold and fungus but what they do is kick up the mold our bodies already have. They cycle like worms but athe are not organic. I have tried the worm pills do not really affective but do help get rid of the ones in the digestive seems by flushing them out. more doctors are jioning the Okolhoma State University orgaization. so there is hope. they are beginning to understand it better. So to everyone keep hope there is alot of poeple working on this.
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Post by greggo on Jan 15, 2009 20:35:11 GMT -5
Hi im Greggo I have morgellons In Brisbane Australia, Dr Muir (Dermatolagist) at the Marter hospital had some skin samples from my face, the lab results said, Microscopy consistent with celluiar debris and fibres no fungi or parasites seen in material submitted. Dr muir told me only 3 people he had seen whith Morgellons. IM #3 I want to chat to people and help others. I can help I have a biological microscope and camera to photograph samples to take to your GP to try to get help.
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Post by greggo on Jan 15, 2009 21:11:32 GMT -5
I would like to start a morgellons support group to meet new Friends and understanding the mental and physical health as a group as only people with Morgellons know how hard it is to face the day to day life. together we can be proud of who we are
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Post by lagoonladyw3 on Dec 9, 2009 11:59:35 GMT -5
To: Downunder, Don't think this is something that comes from Aussieland, far from it, I live in Florida and it's becoming well known here, it's very much developed in CA. and Tx. also. I started out with ( Morgellons ) so bad I was spitting bugs out of my mouth ! Gross I know but truth, and that we can all use a little more of !! I drink 1 tsp. in bottled water of Diatomaceous Earth ( food grade ) throughout the day, 2 tsp daily, use 1/2 tsp tea tree oil in my handful of unscented shampoo, and wash all clothing, hot or cold water , in 20 mule team borax, we buy it in the grocery store, also sprinkle it into carpets along with puffing the DE around the house, both are people, pet safe. Some people have multiple symtoms like me , I have bug attraction and the white cotton looking fibers come out of my skin,usually the size of a grain of rice. I have been a sufferer since Nov. 2008, but am much better than I was, also spray bathroom and computer area (under chair) with windex w/ ammonia. Could go on and on , but will wait for reply to this mess. before adding anymore, God be with us all .
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Post by dc10801 on Dec 10, 2009 0:13:16 GMT -5
What part of fl...theres a bunch of us around tampa bay
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Post by virginia2 on Dec 16, 2009 13:30:26 GMT -5
I am old and not advanced on computer I came in here beause I have something I am anxious to pass this on. on. I have suffered for 20 years. I just found a product from Austrailia. Had huge attack two weeks ago. new breakout had stopped but I was covered with open sores. I got 100 % tea tree oil from Austrailia from Drug store. All open sores were closed in24 hours. Like a miracle. Please try it and let everyone know if you have the same reaction.
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Post by crystalriver on Dec 16, 2009 13:57:39 GMT -5
Thank You Virginia,
Yes is a good thing to remember--my first experience with it was with the meleleuca company in the 80's. I use it for cleaning especially when I am active with symptoms. Yet, it can be used in many forms to be applied to the body, tooth paste.
Thank You for reminding us, CrystalRiver
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