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Post by john on Feb 22, 2007 2:34:41 GMT -5
I have noticed that any cut or abrasion is a way for them to get in.
Although I have not seen any entering unbroken skin, I am sure that any exposed blood is what they are after.
Any other thoughts ?
John
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Post by gracebeours on Feb 22, 2007 15:50:26 GMT -5
I believe that you are correct, John, that they get in through cuts and abrasions, but I believe they also enter from other body openings such as nose, ears, mouth, eyes. I have also seen them through openings they make in our skin. Being microscopic, they are very opportunistic.
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Post by john on Mar 8, 2007 20:08:52 GMT -5
"opportunistic"
That's kind of scary.
It reminds me of HIV opportunistic infections.
Is there any relation to some kind of a compromised immune system similar to HIV and this affliction ?
I am just kind of surprised that relatively few of us are infected - (or showing symptoms) .
Are we special in some kind of way ?
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Post by bakunin on Mar 13, 2007 4:15:12 GMT -5
I believe that you are correct, John, that they get in through cuts and abrasions, but I believe they also enter from other body openings such as nose, ears, mouth, eyes. I have also seen them through openings they make in our skin. Being microscopic, they are very opportunistic. You seem to have a good eye for such things. Your description matches exactly: "The life cycle of H. bacteriophora consists of an egg, four juvenile stages and the adult. Only third-stage juveniles attack and infect host insects. This stage is the only free-living stage in the life cycle of the nematode, and is adapted to remain in the environment without feeding for a prolonged time. All other stages exist only inside the host. The infective juveniles move through soil in search of hosts. Once a host is encountered, the nematodes enter though natural openings or use their dorsal tooth or hook to break the outer cuticle of small, fragile insects to allow the juvenile to enter. " www.entomology.wisc.edu/mbcn/kyf611.html
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Post by alseaman on Apr 4, 2007 0:46:02 GMT -5
I would once again ask if anyone has had clinical treatment for parasites? (such as..)intramuscular injections or intravenous injections of pentavalent antimonials? such as sodium antimony gluconate? or ethylstibamadine? or aromatic diamidines?(pentamidine isethionate and stilbamidine isethionate these can cure kala azar(leishmaniasis)(supposedly) anyway it's the treatment for plasmid parasites, has any doctor ever suggested these treatments ? (or heard of them?) if the answer is no why not ask your dr, about these options (wouldn't it be great if it helped) best wishes to all alseaman
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Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2007 3:46:17 GMT -5
The President and Secretary of the American Society of Parasitology say the Morgellons Fibers ARE NOT PARASITES, THEY ARE NOT ANIMAL - MEANING - THEY HAVE NO EUCARYOTIC CELLULAR STRUCTURE.
They are not "alive" as in "life".
Some may have parasites - FEW DO!!
PLEASE GO SEE/HEAR THE RESEARCH. YOU WILL BE EMBARRASSED BY ALL YOUR GOINGS ON HERE IF YOU CONTINUE HAVING NOT PAID ATTENTION TO THE LATEST FINDINGS, AL.
Blessings, Shoshanna
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Post by sickandtired on Apr 4, 2007 9:19:19 GMT -5
There is something I am peeling off my lesions with a dorsal hook or tooth or something that allows this thing to feed on me......there is an element of organism here.....there is an organism type thing feeding on me that I have to peel off for releif at times and why are we getting the granules and seed like things and the sticky things that come out of our skin....
THIS IS NOT JUST FIBERS we are dealing with......could these fibres made from whatever being mixed with the parasites and bacteria to help them code these things for whatever cleanup they have been designed to cleanup......I read how gold when put into NANO size is no longer gold but now BLUE.....don't we see a lot of BLUE fibers....could this be part of the conductors to do the job they want done.....
there is something MORE than FIBERS here....
and yes John I have had many a lesion start from nicking myself when shaving.....I dread nicking myself now because I just know that will turn to lesion in no time....
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Post by whiterose on Apr 4, 2007 9:28:22 GMT -5
Listen to the radio show that is posted under sho's Morgellons Map, please sit down, this will answer many of your questions! It is posted under new map at MRF.
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Post by sickandtired on Apr 4, 2007 9:30:18 GMT -5
I am not going to be closed minded about this....there is more than fibers doing the damage to our bodies.....
So what are you saying....that research is DONE...we know exactly the cause of this....I DON"T THINK SO......
Maybe because you haven't had lesions for years now you have forgotten what it feels like to peel one of these from your body....they have a tenacity like no other.....
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Post by mfromcanada on Apr 4, 2007 10:56:10 GMT -5
From digging in to and observing my arm I have come to the conclusion that this organism in my arm is much much bigger that I thought. I do think it is a slime deep inside my tissues. It think the slime can make itself in to many different shapes including a claw like thing that grabs on. I have seen sample with numerous claws that seem to come out of the slime. I think the fibers are only one stage/aspect of the microorganism I definately think tamtam was right. Keep looking at the blog silentsuperbug-keyarticles.blogspot.com/ .
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Post by smoothdeb on Apr 11, 2007 13:10:23 GMT -5
Hello from South Dakota. My name is Deb and I have had Morgellons since last October, a pproximate date. The way they got in was oppurtunistic, and they got to me in my weakened state They bite and leave petichae, or little red dots. I saw a blue dot enter my hand early on. Ndw black dots go into my fingers and toes. Inside my nose I have small worms which are flourescent under the microscope. Also there is budding yeast with the small worms (nematodes?) in my nasal cavity, which was observed by my Ear, Nose and Throat doctor. I have millions of "seeds" in my mouth and saliva. They are clear. I have the ugliest bowel movements I have ever had, with white stringey contents, and sometimes orangish brown mucous. When I take a shower, I have to allow about 4 minutes for the Morgellons to release their hold, (they attach really tightly) and then when they release, they bite as they are going down the drain. I suppose they enter when they are biting, because I have bites on my wrists, legs, ankles, feet, toes..... and of course, I am crazy and this is delusional parasitosis, the doctors have labeled me so. But I never believed it. And I thank God I found you people. Deb in South Dakota. PS I spent time in California last summer with my cousin who has Lyme disease. She is disabled by it, and told me her doctors told her Lyme disease is like HIV, equally contagious and epidemic worthy. I had to throw my houseplants all away last fall due to plant infestation: black and white fly, mites, grubs, etc. And I have seen microscopic white flys in my house ever since, but no one else does.
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Post by mfromcanada on Apr 11, 2007 18:20:41 GMT -5
smoothdeb, you sound like you are in bad shape. I hope everyone hear can give you some ideas to help reduce that biting, itching thing. Try baking soda. Put in on dry or when you are in for the evening put some on with a little water. It will draw them out and all the slime, brown spotted, fungal looking things. Someone on a board gave me this idea and it has helped quite a bit. I also use kitchen salt with a little water. I dab it on. Welcome to the board.
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Post by 0happyday on Apr 11, 2007 23:14:39 GMT -5
OK I have to open my big mouth here.
Let me say that "all of you are right"
I have been pondering this for several days
and this is the perfect time to make my point.
If I were asked to describe Morgellons in one word,
it would be, DIVERSITY
actually this was to be the name of my post.
The most common characteristics of those of us who are affected are:
We are hard headed, obsessive compulsive, proud, determined, STRONG, spiritual, pre-destined, leaders, who have been chosen for a very significant reason.
We all have our theories and each theory has led to more and more understanding of what this is. We will continue to find out more in the near future. But we have all brought something to the table.
No theory should be discounted because in doing so could possibly elude us to miss critical data which could be life altering.
Each of us has brought very important and informative information about this disease.
Think about it!
Some of us have experienced the same thing and others different.
But I will never be convinced that when I talk to someone on the other side of the country or the world and they can tell me exactly the same story of what I have experienced myself, That these things are not related to Morgellons.
Each and every day more and more data is linked in some way to what each or all of us are experiencing.
I will not pretend to ever be as knowledgable as Whiterose about the Bloodlines and Chemtrails. and I don't want to be. I would be wasting my time to try to research what she already knows. I trust her research and that this is her part in this plan for us.
Every person who has come to this board has brought up something of great importance and has reminded some of us of things that have happened to us that we may have forgotten or never linked the possible relationship to the other information.
It is in awe that I think of each and every one of you and how important you all are to this group.
I may add more later but the powers that be are trying to stop this communication.
With love in Christ Big Hugs
0happyday
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Post by wildanimal on Apr 16, 2007 12:31:14 GMT -5
Ohappyday, so well said, it's people like you that make others feel comfortable here. You are so right,..... everyone is special here and has something to offer .that's why it's so important that we all be open minded. and that is why whiterose is special because she leaves no stone unturned!! I have my theories and stories which I will explain knowing that it might bring something to this table of M . big hugs to all, wildanimal
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Post by bugsy on Apr 16, 2007 13:35:33 GMT -5
Hello everyone, Be it right or wrong.....the closest thing I've seen to this Morgellon's......on a nano (small) scale would be something akin to "Cutaneous Larva Migrans." Which is a hookworm which can enter your body though ANY PART OF YOUR SKIN....Usually the bare foot.....then if they are clever enough....they go into your lungs.....come up through your trachea...go into your throat via phlem...you cough and then swallow them...and then into the intestine...and EVERYWHERE...or just under the skin....hence CUTANEOUS...Morgellon's are obviously much smaller that the photos on the below link.....but seems to present in a LOT of the same ways. dermatlas.med.jhmi.edu/derm/result.cfm?Diagnosis=-1921851750Just a theory. ~Bugsy
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Post by john on Apr 21, 2007 4:01:14 GMT -5
Wow! Great info here ! I am happy to have started this thread and hope to help it some more.. now WHAT was my reason for logging in here at 4:56 AM ? I had a new idea or problem and I wanted to share it, but now with the brain fog... If I remember I will post...
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