Post by Cliff Mickelson on Oct 4, 2006 19:56:31 GMT -5
Cliff - Thank you for the sites. I've read some of them already. I think that you are brillant.
I know that in order for Morgellons to be identified as an infectious disease, the infectious agent must be identified. Can you tell me why the fibers do not qualify as infectious agents? Is it because they are not "living" organizisms? Any more thoughts on why inorganic fibers can move?
Thanks, L
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Hi Leslie:
Well, it gets a bit complicated at first until one understands that there are actually several different classes of "fibers" involved here. In fact, the word "fiber" is a complete misnomer and one that has only gained currency due to prior convention.
One class of this "fiber" form is, (as far as we have been able to determine) NOT infectious. A second class is not directly infectious but is a vector FOR infection, (and a manifestation or "stage" of the life cycle of the organism) ... And the third class of fiber, (or more correctly stated as "Fibril) is quite likely highly infectious under certain circumstances.
To further muddy the waters, there also exist several other non-fibril forms of the same creature(s).
Interestingly enough, the motile, or "mobile" form of this affliction can be considered to be more of a very unusual hyphea than a classic nematode. It is also a powerful linear changeling. Hence, we have termed it a "nematomorph."
Another issue rarely addressed is the form known as the "core Fibril" (See Jan Smith and my work on this form at
The core fibril, as well as one other form,, is highly resistant to heat, will not carbonize at 1200 degrees, and leaves all current analysis beggared. These unusual charectoristics have been duplicated a number of times and have been peer reviewed.
At the risk of spilling the beans, it would be safe to say that our little amigo can be considered to be "alive" only if one is willing to redefine the past accepted definition of "alive"
There is one fact that can be taken to the bank....This thing is NOT a normal, nor is it a natural, creation. One of the reasons that the successful effort to understand exactly what this thing is keeps running into such difficulty is because it does not fit into any currently existing pre-tailored definition of known pathogens. In other words, we are forced to write the book as we go.
There is the added consideration that several very powerful groups are at high risk should they be exposed to the truth of this issue.
Sorry for being a bit oblique, but such are the demands of the position I currently find myself in. The secret to understanding this "life" form can be uncovered in understanding the nature of the brown macro-fibrils.
The Colored fibers are, currently, a productive dead end that can and do lead us nowhere. Their importance and significance are not fully understood and although they are part and parcel of this affliction, they are the fruit and are not the "tree"
Thanks for writing, "L".
Best wishes to you and yours.
-Cliff Mickelson
I know that in order for Morgellons to be identified as an infectious disease, the infectious agent must be identified. Can you tell me why the fibers do not qualify as infectious agents? Is it because they are not "living" organizisms? Any more thoughts on why inorganic fibers can move?
Thanks, L
***
Hi Leslie:
Well, it gets a bit complicated at first until one understands that there are actually several different classes of "fibers" involved here. In fact, the word "fiber" is a complete misnomer and one that has only gained currency due to prior convention.
One class of this "fiber" form is, (as far as we have been able to determine) NOT infectious. A second class is not directly infectious but is a vector FOR infection, (and a manifestation or "stage" of the life cycle of the organism) ... And the third class of fiber, (or more correctly stated as "Fibril) is quite likely highly infectious under certain circumstances.
To further muddy the waters, there also exist several other non-fibril forms of the same creature(s).
Interestingly enough, the motile, or "mobile" form of this affliction can be considered to be more of a very unusual hyphea than a classic nematode. It is also a powerful linear changeling. Hence, we have termed it a "nematomorph."
Another issue rarely addressed is the form known as the "core Fibril" (See Jan Smith and my work on this form at
The core fibril, as well as one other form,, is highly resistant to heat, will not carbonize at 1200 degrees, and leaves all current analysis beggared. These unusual charectoristics have been duplicated a number of times and have been peer reviewed.
At the risk of spilling the beans, it would be safe to say that our little amigo can be considered to be "alive" only if one is willing to redefine the past accepted definition of "alive"
There is one fact that can be taken to the bank....This thing is NOT a normal, nor is it a natural, creation. One of the reasons that the successful effort to understand exactly what this thing is keeps running into such difficulty is because it does not fit into any currently existing pre-tailored definition of known pathogens. In other words, we are forced to write the book as we go.
There is the added consideration that several very powerful groups are at high risk should they be exposed to the truth of this issue.
Sorry for being a bit oblique, but such are the demands of the position I currently find myself in. The secret to understanding this "life" form can be uncovered in understanding the nature of the brown macro-fibrils.
The Colored fibers are, currently, a productive dead end that can and do lead us nowhere. Their importance and significance are not fully understood and although they are part and parcel of this affliction, they are the fruit and are not the "tree"
Thanks for writing, "L".
Best wishes to you and yours.
-Cliff Mickelson