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Post by shubot on Mar 25, 2008 23:28:44 GMT -5
Hi, Everyone.
I would like to start a poll or survey section on this board to determine a common link or denominator to Morgellons.
I would appreciate anyone who is willing to participate by providing about five questions at time with your own answers included. More or less is good too. However, sometimes if it is too long, and people are in a hurry, they may not take the time to answer a very long list of questions at one sitting.
This poll will be about our history only. After a few months, when many people have asked their questions, and we obtain a lot of responses, hopefully, we will be able to see if anything stands out.
If you suspect anything in particular may have a link to possibly causing you to develop this disease, please ask everyone on this board by posting your suspicious question to see if anyone else was exposed to the same situation.
I have wondered many times about things that may have caused my problem, and wondered how many others may have been in a similar situation before they came down with this
I will start with my first five or so.
~~~~~~~Did anyone develop Morgellons after : ~~~~~~~~~
1. Digging in the outdoors ground soil........yes, bare hands, no gloves. 2. Staying on the beach in Florida?...........yes, ten days. 3. being exposed to pegions.....................yes, neighbor breeds them. 4. being exposed to rodent waste..............yes, helping a friend clean. 5. Being exposed to heavy, old dust?..........yes, helping a friend clean. 6. Being exposed to mold...........................yes, helping a friend clean
Thanks so much,
shubot
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Post by 0happyday on Mar 25, 2008 23:46:02 GMT -5
I like this idea Shubot:
*Bought a house that had been vacant for several years, Water was VERY bad. They had put one of those several thousand dollar treatment systems on it.
*Had horses and rode a lot.
*Always worked in dirt. my hobby
*I remember one of the first Dr's asking had I eaten any shell fish and I said no, then later remembered I had eaten shrimp. The last 2 times I have had shrimp lately I have gotten sick.
* Next house I moved to a year later had extreme mold problems.
Hope this helps you.
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Post by shubot on Mar 28, 2008 23:19:43 GMT -5
Thanks for your input, Ohappyday.
I had hoped more people would be interested in this poll so we could find a common risk factor.
The house I was helping my friend clean had not been lived in for 7 and 1/2 years and became infested with MICE! And I did not wear mask or gloves, bad idea.
The mold came from the over soaked soil I was digging in, again no gloves or mask.
Well, even with just two of us, we have in common :
1. mold 2.dirt/soil 3. old dusty houses.
That is a start, right?
Thanks again. shubot
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Post by bugsy on Mar 31, 2008 5:19:19 GMT -5
Hey, sorry it took so long to post but here goes.
First thought on suspected culprits: Eye pain was my FIRST sign as I recall Mold from tearing down a LOT of old wallpaper. Scabies Lice Dog had what looked like ringworm. Fleas We took in a ferrel cat about a year prior to this. It was sick and we got it shots and found it a home. Dog eats wil animal excrement from back yard. Mainly rabbit droppings. BUT, vet gave us propholactic dewormers....heartworm etc for this very thing. But not for anything exotic... Went swimming a LOT in the two years prior in a local lake. Got what looked like a terrible rash from May to September '06 on legs and trunk.
Took dog for walks around a pond where a LOT of ducks and geese did their business all over path.
All for now
Faith
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Post by bygraceofgod on Apr 1, 2008 10:39:16 GMT -5
Great Idea Shu!
I became ill many years ago. It did worsen after exposures in an extremely filthy house, old dirt, dust, webs, rats, mice, oppossum, squirrels, cats, birds, and all animal fecal matter, and live animals and in all stages of decomposition. Also direct exposure to very old fiberglass (wall and ceiling fell on me).
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Post by shubot on Apr 1, 2008 22:16:09 GMT -5
Hey, Faith, Thanks for you response. 1. pain in eyes....this is weird. I suffered terribly with dry eyes from 1982 to 1991. I had white stringy, gritty mucus that felt like sand in my eyes. The pain was terrible with severe sensitivity to light. At the same time, I suffered itching all over by body like severe dry skin. I had tiny red bumps on my feet that itched intensely, and I would awaken around 1am to 5am choking and gaging, and coughing with something stringy in my throat. I had to go to the Emergency Room once to have my airway opened. I had been exposed to tons of garden dust at that time because I was building a huge garden. After I began taking 25,ooo IU of beta carotene and essential fatty acids twice a day, it stopped. I still take it today for fear if I stop, the symptoms will return. Right before I got this in 2006, I had to stop taking the beta carotene and EFA's for about three weeks? 2. Old wall paper.....probably means old dust too. I also tore out old wallpaper and replaced it with new in 1993. 3. Lice and scabies......I was exposed to lice and scabies in 1987 from a patient. All of the staff that had contact with that patient had to undergo lice and scabies treatment twice. 4. Dog with ringworm.....In 1987 I had a dog that developed patches of hair loss. The doc treated with a fungal cream, Nizoril, I think. 5. Stray cat ....I also took in a homeless cat for 13 months in 1993. The cat had feline leukemia. 6. Dog eating wild creature poo-poo....I took in an unwanted dog that was not fed and was surviving on catching and eating ground squirrels when we rescued him. It took me months to get him to learn to eat Dog Food. All he wanted was was the live creatures, even birds. 7. Fleas..... I am always exposed to them because we have always had pets that go outdoors to do their business. Thanks so much for you input. Blessings, shubot
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Post by Cats on Apr 5, 2008 13:30:22 GMT -5
Hi Shubot, and nice to meet you and everyone (I'm new on the block). Here's my input.
Did anyone develop Morgellons after: 1. Renovating an old home?............Yes, 10 years ago: lots of drywall dust and wood dust from sanding old wood floors with years of dog or cat urine in them. 2. Having a bout of impetago?..............Yes, preceded 1st nasal lesion that erupted in Mexico nine years ago, which really got my Morgellons ball rolling. 3. Taking a trip south?..........Yes, 1st nasal lesion occurred 5 days after my arrival to central Mexico, with a stop in Houston where I spent several hours outside breathing in the Texas air. I'd also been to central Mexico a year or two before that, making the same stop in Houston. 4. Noticing a freaky cloud formation that covered the sky like a thick, low ceiling with many funnel-shaped spiked formations protruding downward from it, kind of like meringue peaks?..........Yes, also ten years ago while renovating that house. I'd never seen clouds like that before, nor have I seen any since. Took some pics, but they didn't turn out.
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Post by shubot on Apr 5, 2008 21:09:31 GMT -5
Hi Shubot, and nice to meet you and everyone (I'm new on the block). Here's my input. Did anyone develop Morgellons after: 1. Renovating an old home?............Yes, 10 years ago: lots of drywall dust and wood dust from sanding old wood floors with years of dog or cat urine in them. 2. Having a bout of impetago?..............Yes, preceded 1st nasal lesion that erupted in Mexico nine years ago, which really got my Morgellons ball rolling. 3. Taking a trip south?..........Yes, 1st nasal lesion occurred 5 days after my arrival to central Mexico, with a stop in Houston where I spent several hours outside breathing in the Texas air. I'd also been to central Mexico a year or two before that, making the same stop in Houston. 4. Noticing a freaky cloud formation that covered the sky like a thick, low ceiling with many funnel-shaped spiked formations protruding downward from it, kind of like meringue peaks?..........Yes, also ten years ago while renovating that house. I'd never seen clouds like that before, nor have I seen any since. Took some pics, but they didn't turn out. Hi, Cats, and a big welcome !! It is so nice to meet you, also. Thank you so much for responding to this poll. My hope is to find a common or repetitive environmental situation or possible toxin. In response to your question: Did anyone develop Morgellons after: 1. Renovating....I participated in renovations almost all of my life. The big ones were in 1968, 1973, 1981, 1987, 1993, 1995, 2006; the year I became ill. I never did wood floors, though. 2. Impetago...I never had it. 3. Trip to south...yes, we went to Florida every fall since 1973. We always stayed 2-3 weeks, with 7-10 days on the beach. 4. Peaked cloud formations.... I think I may have seen these once, I Can't remember the details or when...sorry. I was never in Mexico, but I did play in the mud and dust of Texas for two years as a child. I think we once played in a sewer stream thinking it was a creek...YUCk!! What kids will do! What kind if lesions are they and what does the doc say? We seem to have dust and mold, and dirt as a possible common thread. I wish you the best, and I hope you along with everyone else will soon find our healing. Please be sure to come back and talk to us. I want to start a symptom poll and treatment poll soon. Blessings to you, shubot
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Post by shubot on May 19, 2008 22:29:28 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that their saliva becomes thick, foamy, and copious in the afternoon from about 2pm thru 4 or 5pm?
Does anyone have drop foot? Right or left?
Does anyone have weakness in their legs?
Has anyone noticed when they drop the debris in their ears in the toilet, it hops and spins on the surface of the water?
Has anyone lost ALL of their hair?
Does anyone have one ear turn red while the other is pale?
How many of you have a lot of back pain?
Thanks, shubot
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Post by shubot on May 26, 2008 23:45:23 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that their saliva is thicker than it used to be when they awaken in the morning?
..................( how do you deal with it?).....................
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Post by SYLVIA Valdez on May 27, 2008 4:41:15 GMT -5
YES, SALIVA IS THICKER IN MORNING. I HAVE LOST MY HAIR. I AM NOW IN MY 4TH YEAR OF MORGELLONS. I AM TRYING GSE NOW FOE MOUTHWASH.
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Post by shubot on May 28, 2008 0:29:54 GMT -5
Hi, Sylvia, You are so welcome here! I am sorry to hear you have this morg thing Thank you so much for responding to this question about the thicker saliva. I began to notice it happen a few months ago and was wondering if any one else had been experiencing it, also. Please keep us posted as to how the GSE is working for this problem. Have you lost all of your hair or just in certain parts of your head or body? Blessings to you, shubot
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Post by candicecarfan on May 28, 2008 10:56:52 GMT -5
It is diffucult to say when this started and how far back with symptoms. All my life I have been sick. Son born in 1980 and he came home with impetigo. In 2000 recall terrible yeast infections that would come and go with every cycle. Neck started to really be uncomfortable about a year ago. More so than normal. Friends back felt numb in one spot in Dec. 2007. In Dec. 2007 my eye sight instantly got bad. But prior the that I was in and out of hospital for urinary tract infections that were unexplained. In july 2007 started with constant puking and could not stop. Was hospitalized 5 or 6 times with this. Bothing in particular would set that off. I would say in Feb 2007, Dad thought it was from my mast cells not working properly....started to take Acid Reducer and benadryll every 4 to 6 hours. This helped the puking. Bendryll made me so tired I stopped taking it. But the tiredness kept on. Extreme tiredness! We both started to get white slivers out of skin 1st or second week in May 2008. On May 8th, 2008 was terribly itchy, got in shower and saw what looked like tan dust mites sorta in floor of shower. Immediately left my house so boys would not get it...and we have been dealing with bad symptoms ever since. Common: Live in a house with bad mold issues. Had to clean it before moving in, a year and a half ago. Many years ago started with a lot of food allergies...I would say 12 years ago. At that time I Was gen coordinator for the building of a community playground. Oh my gosh! I think that was the start of a lot of trouble. We worked in mulch; that was in 1994. After that I got pretty sick. Where food would go right thru me. Drs couldnt again figure out what was the matter. Got gall bladder out. Hey! Did anyone have their gall bladder out? I lost a lot of weight at that time without trying.
So, here are my questions:
What surgeries have people had?....I had a bad car accident in 1983, facial reconstruction and couldn't sit up by self. Tubal ligation and gall bladder out.
Any food allergies? I have a ton! Corn and all of its by products, casein ( milk fat), hazelnuts, bug bites, bluberries, lots more....
Do you recall any strange and painful bug bites in your life time? I was about 9 or 10 and recall feeling a bite much like these while I was in the pool in FL, and never saw a bug in years after that spot would hurt the same as when it first happened. (n Ilive in FL now and have for the past 20 years)
Anyone get the red spots on their skin earlier in life? My biological mom has them too. Her dr. told her they were normal. Now I wonder. You dont have one, then one appears...and stays.
Anyones biological mother have any diseases in her lifetime? My mother had TB and was in a TB ward for 6 or 7 years of her childhood.
Did anyone grow up with nosebleeds and constipation while a kid? These were a problem for me.
Curiouys to find out! C
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Post by kmarie on May 28, 2008 18:44:18 GMT -5
Hi,
My lower level apartment backed up sewage (along with 3 other's in the building )
Symptoms started as cellulitis in the right lower leg/calf.
Carpet cleanter had extracted the water/sewage, then pulled it up
and a carpet staple flew across the room and I must have stepped on
it with my right foot. They DID NOT change the pad or carpeting, instead
used fans to dry it and then returned to "clean it".
The odd thing was that right after they extracted the sewage and lifted the carpeting up with fans to dry, I saw them sprinkly something on the carpet. I asked what it was.
They said it was GOOD Bacteria to eat the BAD bacteria still left in the carpet.
I imagine that GOOD "eating" bacteria is what got into my system after the break in my skin from stepping on the carpet staple.
I did get hook worm from this. Then morgellons followed.
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Post by morph on May 29, 2008 2:36:56 GMT -5
I will never believe that this affliction can manifest in days, not when it took 20 years to infest my whole system, and really what spured it on was 3 YEARS of STEROIDS
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Post by sherikay4jesus on Jul 7, 2008 12:27:50 GMT -5
1.Yes,much digging including to bury animals that died. 2.Was in Florida once 21 years ago,I don't think beach. 3.Raised pigeons for 5 years. 15 years ago. 4. Yes,rodent waste.Had a couple mice from time to time that cats brought in. 5.Yes,helped clean attic at Mom's. 6. Mold, in a big way!! House I rented 3 years ago.I got very ill and basically left most of my possessions re: Dr. advice.Nosebleeds,neurological symptoms,asthma,3 dead dogs and 1 very sick.
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Post by shubot on Jul 9, 2008 20:07:02 GMT -5
It is diffucult to say when this started and how far back with symptoms. All my life I have been sick. Son born in 1980 and he came home with impetigo. In 2000 recall terrible yeast infections that would come and go with every cycle. Neck started to really be uncomfortable about a year ago. More so than normal. Friends back felt numb in one spot in Dec. 2007. In Dec. 2007 my eye sight instantly got bad. But prior the that I was in and out of hospital for urinary tract infections that were unexplained. In july 2007 started with constant puking and could not stop. Was hospitalized 5 or 6 times with this. Bothing in particular would set that off. I would say in Feb 2007, Dad thought it was from my mast cells not working properly....started to take Acid Reducer and benadryll every 4 to 6 hours. This helped the puking. Bendryll made me so tired I stopped taking it. But the tiredness kept on. Extreme tiredness! We both started to get white slivers out of skin 1st or second week in May 2008. On May 8th, 2008 was terribly itchy, got in shower and saw what looked like tan dust mites sorta in floor of shower. Immediately left my house so boys would not get it...and we have been dealing with bad symptoms ever since. Common: Live in a house with bad mold issues. Had to clean it before moving in, a year and a half ago. Many years ago started with a lot of food allergies...I would say 12 years ago. At that time I Was gen coordinator for the building of a community playground. Oh my gosh! I think that was the start of a lot of trouble. We worked in mulch; that was in 1994. After that I got pretty sick. Where food would go right thru me. Drs couldnt again figure out what was the matter. Got gall bladder out. Hey! Did anyone have their gall bladder out? I lost a lot of weight at that time without trying. So, here are my questions: What surgeries have people had?....I had a bad car accident in 1983, facial reconstruction and couldn't sit up by self. Tubal ligation and gall bladder out. Any food allergies? I have a ton! Corn and all of its by products, casein ( milk fat), hazelnuts, bug bites, bluberries, lots more.... Do you recall any strange and painful bug bites in your life time? I was about 9 or 10 and recall feeling a bite much like these while I was in the pool in FL, and never saw a bug in years after that spot would hurt the same as when it first happened. (n Ilive in FL now and have for the past 20 years) Anyone get the red spots on their skin earlier in life? My biological mom has them too. Her dr. told her they were normal. Now I wonder. You dont have one, then one appears...and stays. Anyones biological mother have any diseases in her lifetime? My mother had TB and was in a TB ward for 6 or 7 years of her childhood. Did anyone grow up with nosebleeds and constipation while a kid? These were a problem for me. Curiouys to find out! C Hi, candi! And welcome! Thanks for responding to my questions. I will try to answer yours. Food allergies....I have had a test that showed 16 foods I am allergic to. Red spots on skin...I just began to get them when I got the Morg. I do not think they are normal. I think our body is telling us something is wrong, same with the brown spots. Mom's illness... no, just anemia and coronary artery disease, gallbladder removed, nose bleeds....I had alot as a child, esp while traveling. shubot
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Post by shubot on Jul 11, 2008 15:36:51 GMT -5
Hi, My lower level apartment backed up sewage (along with 3 other's in the building ) Symptoms started as cellulitis in the right lower leg/calf. Carpet cleanter had extracted the water/sewage, then pulled it up and a carpet staple flew across the room and I must have stepped on it with my right foot. They DID NOT change the pad or carpeting, instead used fans to dry it and then returned to "clean it". The odd thing was that right after they extracted the sewage and lifted the carpeting up with fans to dry, I saw them sprinkly something on the carpet. I asked what it was. They said it was GOOD Bacteria to eat the BAD bacteria still left in the carpet. I imagine that GOOD "eating" bacteria is what got into my system after the break in my skin from stepping on the carpet staple. I did get hook worm from this. Then morgellons followed. wow, kmarie, That sounds like a mess you went through. The stuff that was sprinkled on your carpet may have had the nano things in it too. I pulled something out of my foot last night that looked like a plastic worm. When I went to the doc today, I showed it to her, but she was not impressed. I think she just doesn't know what to do with me. shubot
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Post by morph on Jul 11, 2008 22:52:01 GMT -5
This is not a disease that you can see quickly, it is developed SLOWLY over YEARS unless you are born with it, then it is already developed. I do not know about the worm stuff that may be from somthing else. I can tell you within a 6 months of when it was contracted by me. The by the first funny looking lesion on the lower right cheek of I disagree and the burning in the ears. If you think back and remember. If you are older like your father fought and served in WW2 maybe you are born with low grade infestation. If you came of sexual age after or during Vietnam, they call this agent orange for the soldiers. I have seen quite a few agent orange sufferers they have our symptoms. If you were born after Vietnam, because of the easy sexual manners in America you may have been born with what I contracted in ASIA. It seems now it is getting stronger and adapting. I can almost garantee you that any person living now that is a ceturian has NOT had any skin lesions, white plack underskin or continuas bad afflictions. It would be a smart thing to collect blood from these people to find the difference in the composition of their blood. It is almost impossible to find even in the deepest rural spot on the planet now a population not infected. This affliction is enjoyed by billions not thousands. It may be that 100"s of thousands have the most severe skin symptoms but by no means is this a SKIN DISEASE. I will doubt very much you can get this by a carpet treatment. If you actually belive it SUE the company and the maker of the treatment, after all what doctor will say your symptom is MORGELLONS related. If they can not prove what you got and ity came on during a carpet cleaning with some bacteria, then who are they to say impossible, and in fact if you mention this to a doctor, they will be the first to jump on board to explain away what they do not understand, because they need to be the almighty know it all idiots. Please forgive me good doctors of the world, you know who you are, the rest of you crosseyed idiots can go to a uncomfortable burning hell. LOL
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Post by shubot on Jul 12, 2008 0:30:08 GMT -5
Hey, Morph, How are you?
I think you may be right about having this morgie thing for a while before you are actually full blown with it. As I look back I can see where I had similar symptoms that came and went and were much milder than it is now. I just brushed them off, as I think many infected people are doing right now and they do not know that they are infected.
Once I dug in the soil all day, I think I was infected with the collombolla and mold, and fungus from the soil, that with a weakened immune system was more than my body could handle and the morg thing took over. Once it gets a strong hold, I think we are at it's mercy to some degree. We can fight it, we just cannot beat it, yet.
In my case, I do not think it has anything to do with sex because my husband does not have it, and he is the only one that I was ever intimate with in that way. He or my father was never in the service either.
Best to you, shubot
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Post by morph on Jul 12, 2008 11:37:45 GMT -5
I believe that this is the transmission vechical but it may be transmitted by insect bite or water. Just because your husband shows no signs of your symptoms does not mean he does not have it. Here are some indicators, when he shaves his neck you can see problems, pimples on the forhead, or anywhere, white or brown spots on the arms, red dots on the body, rapid hair loss, dry eyes, sinus problems. They did not have to be in the service, travel to foreign countries, or having sex with a person that has it. I will say this to any woman or man that has a significant other, NEVER let them want of your care, as they will find it elsewhere and that can and has been a deadly mistake for man, woman and child. Shubot you can go all the way back and remember at what time your body changed, most likely your menstral cycle became strange close to this time, pelvic pain, long periods, extreem amount of flow, discharge, yeast infection. If you think hard about it you will be able to remember the change. It took me 35 years to get this way but I started with burning ears, hair loss, one strange looking spot that would not heal, body itching, dry skin a form of exzema that went away, all of these things went away. The real monster in my case was steroids given to me for injury and after this then my skin became bad. What part of my immune system was working to keep it in check stopped doing its job. I was actually told by a woman one day, your skin is so nice, smooth somewhat clear skin is NOT a sign you do not have it.
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Post by morph on Jul 13, 2008 1:31:25 GMT -5
This is the writing of a 20 year old female, she is concerned over what she notice's happening to her body, SLOWLY. This part of it is the red dots I talked about before, slowly over years they develop all over the body. It is these that most look like the colony's under the skin. The exception is they are single or multi cell fibroid fed by maybe only skin capillaries not full sized veins. forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/archive/index.php/t-3591.html
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Post by Awake on Jul 13, 2008 11:05:24 GMT -5
Morph, i find a lot of your posts contain a lot of good information especially the theory that some people may have been born with it.
Here is my recall...
I know i have only had symptoms that i would attribute to "morgellons" for about two years , but when i look back a LOT of things have happen which i did not realize back then which could have been directly related to morgellons. I know believe that all of my past troubles are related... I am only 21 now.
For instance i was diagnosed as having ADHD at 5 yrs., i also had an eating disorder and suffered with a lot of child-hood infections , later at about 12 yrs i was diagnosed as having Aspergers syndrome which is an autism spectrum disorder. (which is one of those's broad terms which describes just about anything they can't explain or don't what to!...)
Most of my teenage years i suffered with bots of severe depression which seemed to come out of no where and would cause mood disturbances that interfered with my course work at the time.
As time went on, i kept having bots of what i thought to be depression which ultimately lead me to leave collage at 19. A few months after that during a particularly low time i developed the characteristic morgellons "skin" symptoms of the bitting, crawling and itching. As i remember the sensations just seemed to "switch on" and a sense of "doom" came over me. It was very strange at the time. This was the first time i knew something was very wrong.
It initially felt like electricity moving up and down my body and feeling as so they were EVERYWHERE all though my body. It was like i sensed them at that point and they sensed me! Like an activation of some sort. At about the same time i was just starting to read about morgellons on the internet as a possible cause for my strange symptoms.
I now know that the pieces of the puzzle are coming together and they all lead back to morgellons
At present my general health is still deteriorating i kind it very difficult to sleep sometimes due to muscle spasms caused by the bitting sensations. I know realize that i have had nearly all of the symptoms of morgellons at one time or another.
-Awakening2012-
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Post by jesusheals on Jul 13, 2008 14:51:52 GMT -5
I have suffered from symptoms of this affliction since my childhood as well (intense scratching, eye trouble, depression). Believe it or not, King David suffered in similar fashion. Psalm 88:15 says: I have been afflicted and ready to die from my youth; I suffer Your terrors; I am distraught. You can read the rest of the chapter by clicking below. It's pretty amazing. www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=23&chapter=88&version=50&context=chapter
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Post by shubot on Jul 14, 2008 22:24:11 GMT -5
Thanks for your response, Greg.
Wouldn't it be weird if we found out everyone has this and it just gets messed up in some of us like a weird allergic reaction? Just a thought.
Blessings shubot
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Post by morph on Jul 16, 2008 11:20:10 GMT -5
Shubot do you see what came back to Awakening2012- he has had this since birth, look at what he has gone thru, all the time at the mercy of doctors that do not know nutszen from shineola. They tortured this young man all his life with false diagnosis and drugs. The strain is getting stronger and manifest itself sooner now. This lad is just 21, lucky me I got it at 17, it took 30 years and the help of steroids to get like I am, he is only 21. Will he have children, will it manifest in them before they are 12. The birth maladys keep getting worse and more varied, do the doctors see a problem. Million dollar babies are getting more and more normal. The future of man is bleak at best. You know I read some of ( L. Ron Hubbards fiction ) it is actually quite good and if you are perseptive to the plot, you can see his fiction was telling things the way they are. If anyone likes to read some of these books they are, THESE ARE THE NAMES, LOL, THE INVADERS PLAN, BLACK GENESIS fortress of evil, THE ENEMY WITHIN, AN ALLIEN AFFAIR, FORTUNE OF FEAR, DEATH QUEST, THE DOOMED PLANET and a couple more THIS is a 10 volume set of (MISSION EARTH) sort of like the alien thing, mixed with corruption, manipulations of the news, sexual deviation of the powerful, destruction of society, this all finally accomplished by one man in the background that runs it all. These books were wrote in the 1980's good reading especially for sheepple, maybe you will take a better look around and never say (THAT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE, NOT IN AMERICA) right now we are sitting on our hands while ROME FALLS! Get ready to eat dirt for minerals,LOL. L Ron Hubbard is good reading, it is considered a cult but in reality if you read the books you will no longer think the way the media wants you to think. I am NOT a scientologist, but I have had the great enjoyment of reading some of his works, Dianetics is his book on self direction and taking ahold of life by yourself, up untill that point you are lost. One thing I have to say, when the media goes against anything I look deep into it, to see why they want me to turn away, filled with knowledge gained from reading I can make my own decissions. These books are on ebay, especially Diannetics
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Post by kammy on Nov 20, 2008 18:24:36 GMT -5
~~~~~~~Did anyone develop Morgellons after : ~~~~~~~~~
1. Digging in the outdoors ground soil........yes, bare hands, no gloves.
Yes, I did a lot of landscaping.
2. Staying on the beach in Florida?...........yes, ten days.
Yes, I had a vacation home down there two years in a row, took approx. 6 or 7 trips, the gulf region.
3. being exposed to pegions.....................yes, neighbor breeds them.
No pigeons or birds.
4. being exposed to rodent waste..............yes, helping a friend clean.
Yes, I had a couple of mice in my home the winter of.
5. Being exposed to heavy, old dust?..........yes, helping a friend clean.
Yes.
6. Being exposed to mold...........................yes, helping a friend clean
Yes, Florida black and green.
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Post by sadsack on Nov 21, 2008 12:02:05 GMT -5
Kammy - Definitely yes for the first three; yes for #6, and possibly a factor for 4 & 5. I was already sick when my cat brought a baby rat in the house as a "present" for me. The rat got away and took up residence in the stove, where it lived for a couple of month and GREW before I was finally able to catch it. anewday
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