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Post by Admin on Aug 20, 2015 12:27:04 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Sept 3, 2015 13:01:55 GMT -5
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Post by morph on Sept 5, 2015 1:10:56 GMT -5
To me it is very clear how this started and where, this disease was spread to our people through the infection of more than a million soldiers that frequented third world houses of prostitution.
Soldiers may have just mutated all disease by the overuse of antibiotics for 30 years in bases all over the world, some with villages with more prostitutes than soldiers, that is many when your talking thousands.
The disease of black, white,poor and rich mixed and treated with drugs year after year in the same locations.
The fact that the health of our nation has become DISMAL, this disease is responsible for the rise in disease across the board, the cover up by the CDC and the dismissal of this disease as a, or the, first internet disease, these things SCREAM coverup.
The cover up says they know how the disease was spread, how it was generated and they know how it got here, THEY KNOW, they could have created such a disease to limit life spans, just 5 years off the life span of nearly every American, think of the savings in social security.
While what could have been done, will not easily be proved, but the cover up of this disease is just not a suggestion that there is more to the story than the CDC will admit.
If this disease was a conspiracy, they failed to find out all the aspects, how in the world would they take care of all the insane, not only the old that die from a damaged mind, now even newborns have birth brain issues, these issues come clear in time ADD, ADHD, BI-POLAR, AUTISM are not the effects of many disease, they are the symptoms of just ONE disease.
The reason so many are on drugs, this is the only time they feel normal and are not in mental turmoil.
Prion disease is a focus only because they have tied it to Alzheimers, alzheimers a symptom of disease, a product of only one function of long term involvement.
I believe that what I caught in 1972 was weaker than what I have now, I think in time I caught something more virulent, then I may be wrong.
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Post by morph on Sept 5, 2015 10:10:58 GMT -5
I have read much of this information before, some is bunk, some is misconstrued and some is JUST TRUE. First off is there a Morgellons tick disease connection, it seems the powers that be are allowing this, TICK connection. The idea is ALLOWED and propagating without much argument, this leads me to suspicion, why, because they fight so hard to discredit the proliferation of MORGELLONS, the proof for so called Morgellons is monumental and the Proof for Lyme disease is quite hard to prove, by testing or microscope. The microscope needed to see spirochetes clearly cost quite a bit as they are very small and hard to define. Spirochetes are usually much longer than they are wide, and often their width is below the resolving power of the light microscope. For example, Borrelia may have a length of 20-30um but a width of only 0.2-0.3um. Hence, most spirochetes cannot be viewed using conventional light microscopy. Dark-field microscopy must be used to view spirochetes. Dark field microscopy utilizes a special condenser which directs light toward an object at a angle, rather than from the bottom. As a result, particles or cells are seen as light objects against a dark background. On the other hand, MORGELLONS fibers are super easy to see even in blood drawn from a vein, urine, coming out of skin and buried under the skin. The classic MORGELLONS fibers are much easier to define also, so, when I am told that the fibers come off the outside of the body, or grow out of the skin, in all of these articles about so called Morgellons, I have to wonder, are they blind, you can see Morgellons fibers with a microscope from a 25 dollar childrens lab setup. The black specks they are showing at 1000x are suspect, this material looks much like the black material that forms in red blood and fluids. Still I can not say, I was not looking through the lens of that microscope to see if the black material appeared out of nowhere or it was there the second it was put on the slide. When I hear people contradict themselves often I have to wonder at the speed they assume and actually do they ever PROVE anything or is it a guess of high assumption.. Do you remember that researchers said that the Morgellons fibers would not burn, even at a very high temperature, in fact it says it in one of these articles. These so called researchers now claim these fibers to be keratin, same thing hair is made out of, have you ever put fire next to hair, hmmmmm. Hair is keratin, burns and smells like nothing else, these so called researchers have also said the material gave off a smell like plastic. The white material that flourishes where the lesions are, around to protect them, when you burn it, it does not smell like flesh, it smells like a plastic. So what is it we have here, keratin that will not burn and smells like plastic? We know for sure the government has experimented on us in America, this is well documented, Now, for anyone to think that the US government has stupid scientists working for them has got to be, lets say, stupid, they are top scientists that can make something to kill you in a very short time that leaves no trace, ou will be dead because of (I DON'T KNOW). Read this excerpt of one of the articles. MacLeod also writes, “During the same period, studies, studies of dissemination— ‘delivery systems’ — of biological weapons are known to have formed part of the research portfolio of both the CIA and the Chemical Corps. Among the more notorious projects were those to develop so-called ‘nondiscernible microbioinoculators – the dart gun was one example— and aerosol sprays, along with the potential use of insects (including ticks) and other organic agents.” MacLeod also underscores that on December 9, 1968, an article in Scientific Research by William E. Small “alleged that the Smithsonian Institution was deeply committed to studies in Brazil and the Pacific dealing with the mechanisms by which rare viruses and blood parasites are transmitted from birds, mammals and insects to man.”
Is there anyone here that assumes these are the only ways that a GOVERNMENT would try to destroy human life, try to spread disease that can do a MULTITUDE of things.
They find many uses for pathogens other than death, want to cull the population, make a disease that causes sterility, premature birth, want to stop the collection of social security by a population that paid for it and earned it, make a disease that shortens life or kills at a early age, want, that is all they need.
Do you think for a moment they ruled out fluid exchange the most promising way to transfer almost any pathogen, do you think that a government would rule out the use of a military and sex havens to spread disease, do you, really.
These entitys have assumed they know what is best and what we WANT, to say they are evil each and every government employee that works against the people of the WORLD, that is a true statement, but if you ask them, they are just doing their job, their job for who, the people of the WORLD.
Most people like designations like USA, GERMANY, France, I relent WORLD, it is now the people of the world afflicted by this massive monster called GREED, called POWER.
WE, WE, WE will tell you what to do, who are these WE's, I am not a we, I am a me, do a pile of me's make a WE, not in the history of mankind.
There is always some traitor to the human race, a collective of these sorts that feel they are the answer, they and only they have the right to CONTROL.
If need be the WE's will even experiment on the me's, for what exactly is the worth of a me to a we, a experiment result, that is about all.
You know I read a large amount, but I can not grasp what stands out in articles to remember all I want to say about it, to do this I would have to take notes anymore, my mind is losing its grip.
I got this in 1972 in a military sex haven, anyone that has been privy to the intense itching will understand, you will always remember when that happened first, there is no mistaking that first day. I know where and when it started, the place, date and employment say things, all of what, I may never know for sure. There is one thing I do know, this came home inside millions of troops, they spread it through sex and the birth of their children, the results are quite clear in our civilization today. Civilization, can you really call it that.
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2015 13:32:41 GMT -5
Good Catch and I've thought about the fibers not burning? I've wondered if we are dealing with two things at once and so easily led astray. The Voltaire articles discuss a splice and diced organism and that is exactly what I think it is. Most likely two kinds of fibers, perhaps even more, nano, fungal and prion, lets mix it up and make them really wonder wtf is going on?
Greed and Power is what I see as well and it goes through the masses of people in all countries. Hardly, think there is any point left in discussion as it seems most have accepted what the state of the world is in. As you are fighting, I give you credit because for me in many things it no longer seems to make sense.
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Post by morph on Sept 6, 2015 13:50:06 GMT -5
The Morgellons classic fiber is a one and only, it is easy to discern, what I think is someone is lying.
The fiber can not be impossible to burn and keratin. That's just the way it is.
If you have a microscope and you can find and hold a Morgellons fiber, hold it while using a lighter on it, then do a hair, I am sure you will see the difference.
The fellows that have burnt them say you can hold a butane torch to them, I have not tried it yet but have seen the pictures.
Identification of a fiber that will not burn as keratin does not make sense, no sense at all.
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2015 17:05:14 GMT -5
I have seen different fibers of different colors and not all hold to any one thought. The black fibers looked fungal, the white fibers moved more like worms (not saying they are worms). i had the blue fibers on overdrive when I first showed Morgellons signs, some 30 plus years ago. I would take a shower at night, clean under my nails and wake up with blue fibers under my nails the next morning.
Did I ever try to burn the fibers, no but showered enough to attempt to drown them, didn't work. Yet, within a years time they lessoned and things just keep changing.
With this thought process I disagree as I have seen many different forms.
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2015 17:29:37 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2015 17:48:32 GMT -5
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Post by brimo on Sept 7, 2015 3:48:10 GMT -5
Agree Admin, the fibers are different in color and also seem different as to other properties (thickness, straightness/curlyness, motility ..). I have detected black, blue, red and white fibers. They are easily detected when they are lodged in crusts/calluses. The crusts have tentacles on the underside and there are nodules/globs inside the lesions.
As to the agent causing this, may be Clifford Carnicom is on the right track with his Cross Domain Bacterium.
Anyhow, following a Lyme-protocol (i.e. without the antibiotics), and adding N-Actyl Cysteine (cf Carnicom), certainly helps.
Brim
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2015 7:17:25 GMT -5
Same colors I've seen exactly Brim, I'll check out the cross domain bacterium as that makes sense to me. The film Wires in the brain mentions bacteria and the way they communicate. I've been wondering if they haven't been attempting to reduce people to bacteria level.
Usually, I have soft water softened with salt but that is not possible at this time as someone in the household has heart issues.
Did go over and attempt to do Cliff Carnicom's survey but got bogged down with the events of the last 4 years. I was poisoned so think it would skew the results and not my intention. I'll check out his information again.
I know I also wanted to look at the Dicty slime mold thoughts of Jan Smith Again. Know her site is gone and do hope she is ok.
many of us are beginning to fall, fail due to the inability to handle to much stress.
Yes, Brim, those are the colors I've seen, think I've seen the red but for sure on the other ones.
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2015 9:21:22 GMT -5
Anybody hear from Jan Smith? Please don't let her be dead and we don't know.
Brim could you bring the link over, I went and looked and became frustrated not sure what you wanted me to look at.
Thank you, admin
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Post by morph on Sept 7, 2015 14:30:10 GMT -5
I have seen only one type of fiber, although the fiber is multicolored it is of one form, it is flat and spiral.
here is a video, not such a good video, of some called butt snakes because the first one had a end similar to a snake, LOL, its a butt snake RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!! If you use a microscope all of these fibers will have this characteristic.
These are the fibers that grow out of the skin and inside the body, they have a distinguished shape, form, and are multi colored.
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Post by morph on Sept 7, 2015 16:49:05 GMT -5
I have seen only one type of fiber, although the fiber is multicolored it is of one form, it is flat and spiral.
here is a video, not such a good video, of some called butt snakes because the first one had a end similar to a snake, LOL, its a butt snake RUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!! If you use a microscope all of these fibers will have this characteristic.
These are the fibers that grow out of the skin and inside the body, they have a distinguished shape, form, and are multi colored.
If they are testing other forms of fibers I have not seen them in my ten plus years of looking at mine and those who have provided their pictures.
I think maybe some of the so called researchers have looked at bovine digital dermatitis and assumed it is 1. caused by spirochetes and also is the same no matter what kind of spirochete it is, they have wrote some papers on the subject.
There is a chance they may be correct, you see syphilis is a spirochete disease and one that is treated in sex havens with antibiotic, or should I say the overuse of antibiotics.
The fact that most women in the third world subjected to prostitution are farm girls could suggest that along with the syphilis the Lyme spirochete is also inside their bodies being mutated by the overuse of antibiotics ALTHOUGH, because it is actually very hard to PROVE a positive result for any spirochete disease, how can they ASSUME such a result.
The fact that there has not been any real studies done on Morgellons issues or Lyme for that matter makes it WRONG to blindly group them together.
When we hear of a group of sufferers being tested and studied, there arises the possibility that real research can take place, up until that moment any grandstanding of this or that truth should be considered trash talk and innuendo.
Even in the case of a study being taken up, there is a good chance that the people that have been BRIBED to cover up this disease will be the ones holding the grant BRIBE money in their corrupt hands.
If you think what I am saying is not possible, your head is stuck in the ground.
Screaming out this condition we suffer is Lyme disease will only have one result, a study with no results, because you will settle for any answer as long as the person that says what you want to hear and has a diploma on their wall that states they are a BEGINNER at something pasted on their wall from a university.
THATS right, BEGINNER, it states they have been trained, the outcome, they may have knowledge, could they actually have the manner of Buddha or are they a corrupt, addle minded narcissist sure everything they think is truth.
From the results of a few tested they spew forth truth, not very convincing to me, too many things are convoluted from what I have seen with my own eyes. If I can see them, why can't they, certainly its because they have done no real study, just lip flappin.
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2015 17:37:11 GMT -5
There have been studies done on both by accredited persons from different walks of life. I refuse to suggest that their efforts are meaningless. The CDC is a piece of crap organization that should have had this handled instead of helping to create and spread it. Here are a couple Morgellons studies that are more legitimate than the CDC's ever were. Folks and organization always start on the same level as myself, I place them up or down according to their own action or inaction. The CDC has satan standing on their heads! www.thecehf.org/morgellons-disease-research.htmlwww.columbia-lyme.org/www.cdc.gov/lyme/ like that, the creeps still have yet to note that sexual contact also spreads Lyme as well as lets get another tattoo, duh.
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2015 17:41:05 GMT -5
I also think the fibers have different purpose, application. The black ones are the first to be seen falling in the bed usually, spore like fibers if you look close. The white ones don't look the same. And I never looked close at a blue one but got a black bugger that I saw in my arm on the onset moving like a speedway car. Now he is in my hand and comes to the surfacce to let me know he is still there.
Folks if you have Rh negative blood it is advisable to get your own backup of blood supply. They are online now creating sites that are saying that A positive blood can be given to Rh negatives and this is just bs. So protect yourself.
nite everyone
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Post by morph on Sept 8, 2015 0:46:27 GMT -5
If you want to be exact on the fibers, the people that burnt them knew what they were talking about, they did not spew about different this and that, the fibers are classic twisted flat and of different colors, otherwise what would they have burnt, just any old anything that looks sort of like something from somewhere.
There is a problem with this idea of all people having all symptoms, fibers are quite common but not everyone has the same reality.
I first saw this issue when I went into the black light disco bars in the 1970s I thought it was lint, lint that would not rub off.
It seemed to me it was something in my house or clothes. Most glowed white but a few were orange and a very few green, they were all the same exact size.
I never saw another fiber until a friend told me he saw a news report on fibers, I went in got out my microscope and took some dried goo off a lesion, lo and behold.
There was nothing black in my bed.
The problem with people with accreditations, they assume they are right in everything they say.
If there have been studies we would have had someone post, I have not seen a post about any studies.
In a study you round up a flock of people and you compare, you study, you try to take a sterile entity and reproduce disease, you use animals to get pathogen results, if they do not have a pile of us on hand to examine, they are not doing thingy.
99% of these people work for the MAN, they apply for grants tell some lies and fund themselves or their special interest ideas, like symptom drug, no cures..
They have conferences each year, a big booze party, I have not heard of one victim speaking at one of these, just a bunch of accredited back slappers.
I have been to all kind of conventions, these people that put them on are very proud of how they loosen your purse strings and even boast all of their names and credits, loud, you know what, you can not talk to this kind, they are pretty lofty.
Say what you will I suggest you re read what they say, either they are liars or they do not pay attention to what they say, if these fibers are keratin then they would diapered just like hair when fire is near.
This bunch even PROCLAIMED that this is a skin issue, skin issue with fibers in all of our fluids even blood, anyone that says such a thing is involved in the coverup, its as plain as the lesion on the end of a nose..
People may want to save praise for those that make some sense instead of blowing a trumpet, without playing a song.
If you accept peoples rhetoric without question you become part of the problem, always question.
Some of the lies in the news are kindergarten lies, people today have no questions to ask, there is none, WE BELIEVE, JUST BELIEVE. .
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Post by val on Nov 5, 2015 22:18:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know of the specific antibiotic, that some Morgellons sufferers say gave them much relief , after connections with a lyme specialists founded them to be positive with this irregular Lyme? What is this Lyme identified as? I know, after personal experience, our regular family practitioners, only suggests, ONE Lyme culture exists? Come on! Flu changes and morphs YEARLY! So, yes my Lyme results comes back negative every time when tested at my local physicians office. Why is this information on new Lyme cultures, not being integrated in today's medicine worldwide?
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Post by val on Nov 5, 2015 22:26:57 GMT -5
I'm not saying .this has to be Lyme. I just see so many articles connecting the two, and wanted opinions on that aspect, to know if I should waste my time entertaining that or not..
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