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Post by thinker on Sept 22, 2006 14:50:46 GMT -5
Hey guys! I think that sickandtired might have hit on something.
She mentioned that her husband's boss was always worried about his bugs' pH level - don't mess with their pH.
Maybe that's a hint to obliterating them. Any ideas anyone?
Cliff, you out there? Whaddya think?
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Post by whiterose on Sept 22, 2006 14:57:00 GMT -5
Balancing the PH of ones body will stop many diseases or afflictions in its tracks. I am not sure it will actually kill morgellons, however; I believe it will put it in suspended animation.
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Post by thinker on Sept 22, 2006 15:15:22 GMT -5
Balancing the pH may suspend it, but throwing it off balance may kill it. The thing is, we need to know its normal pH.
I don't subscribe to the theory that this stuff attacks those who are most immunosuppressed. In my household, I am the healthiest, yet I am now the sickest. My healthiest dog also got it. A very healthy friend also has it.
Maybe it seeks a specific pH environment in which to thrive, coincidentally in many who are also immunosuppressed. Am I making any sense?
Sickandtired - are you out there? Is there any detail you can provide about the pH - anything your husband may be able to remember?
A little further out there - I wonder if silk has a pH. I've seen these things purposefully navigate around silk flowers - they're repelled. Isn't silk made from worm spit or something? LOL What is it about silk that sends them in another direction?
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Post by whiterose on Sept 22, 2006 19:38:41 GMT -5
May I inquire as to your blood types? Healthy humans getting a disease maybe it has something to do with our blood. The first 10 years with this Well max from Biochem a Country Life supplement did loads for me. (Not affiliated in any way) I believe it is like a very smart child, you have to keep changing your methods to keep ahead of it.
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Post by Cliff Mickelson on Sept 22, 2006 20:55:28 GMT -5
Hi All:
I think that the Ph issue may be one that holds some promise. Over the years I have heard of a number of Morgellons victims who have felt that they achieved substantial results by experimenting with the body's Ph levels. It would be interesting to see what effects the most noticible results.... +5 or -5
It can't really hurt to check into this, eh?
-Cliff
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Post by thinker on Sept 22, 2006 21:36:27 GMT -5
Hey, aussie. Feel like playing rocket scientist again? ROTF
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Post by aussie on Sept 23, 2006 6:05:25 GMT -5
G'Day, Thinker! My, you do pose some curly ones! But we're doin' okay, aren't we?
ROTF? More like TOTBA! ("Reality on the blink again"... for those those who don't know the lingo.)
About pH.....Yes, I've always been told that to have a balanced pH is one of the biggest favours you can do your body.
I believe the perfect level for human pH is 7.41 in the blood and between 4.5 - 8.0 in urine(according to how much alkaline food you are digesting at the time. ) People who have very acidic systems seem to get ill sooner or later. Amongst other things, sugar is a major player in the acid story and of course parasites, candida etc just lurve the sucrose. No more lollies!
So, I guess the big question is: What is it we're trying to kill? Since Morgellons appears to be a syndrome and a combination of toxins/diseases/viruses etc. can you target them all at once by either lowering or raising your pH? Do you have to be specifically targetting one of them in the hope it will affect the others adversely, by eliminating the one? If you go to an extreme at either end of the scale, instead of trying to aim for "perfect", would you just be doing the organisms a favour?
For instance, Cyst nematodes don't hatch in a pH 4.0 or pH 8.0. They do best in pH 6.00. They do not like low pH.
The crystals of B.t-toxin are solubilised in reducing conditions of high pH(above pH 9.5), the mid gut conditions of the target insects. Apparently that is why it is supposed to be safe for humans, higher animals and other insects.
However once in the gut of the insect, the pH is lowered and the bacterial spores germinate, the bacteria invades the host and, bingo- lethal septicaemia.
However, in studies in chlorinated water inactivation of Bt occurred at pH 7.0. B.anthracis can survive very nicely in pH 5.0 - 6.5.
S-o-o, I believe one would have to be rather careful in trying for extremes of pH. And, you would want to get a good monitoring process going. Would you test the saliva, urine or blood?
Since most people have parasites in their bodies, even if they don't know it, I would definitely go the easy option first and do a parasite cleanse. The product, Parex by Metagenics, that I mentioned to Sickandtired is supposed to kill nematodes, flukes, worms, in their tracks.
One of the most eye opening, visually horrifying things I ever did(a couple of years ago), was a 6 day intensive colonic irrigation therapy. Only vege juices with protein supplements were allowed to be ingested. It was one of the hardest things I have ever done. All I wanted to do was eat a big steak. However, unless you have seen the critters that you pass during the irrigation, you simply would not believe it. My naturopath(at that time), said everyone has them. I'm sorry if I'm making you sick....it did me at the time, but I felt so good afterwards.
It would be interesting to get feed back from some of the people who did experiment with their pH levels.
Was it Whiterose who wanted to know people's blood groups? Sorry, too tired to go back and find the post again.
I am Group 0, Rh Neg. I use the "Eat Right for Your Blood Group" eating plan by Dr D'Adamo as I found that all the foods that I am intolerant to, which had been previously diagnosed, were the same ones that my blood group type is not supposed to eat(according to him). Works well.
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Post by aussie on Sept 23, 2006 7:29:47 GMT -5
Ps.....Knew there was something I had forgotten......Magnesium sulphate = epsom salts pH 6.5-7.0........epsom salts baths. Mmmm mmm............. wouldn't be without it.
Just found an article from drbob4health.com which is brief but informative....................
pH Buffering
The body keeps the blood at slightly alkaline (about 7.4) and dumps the excess acid or alkaline residue into the urine and saliva. It does this for survival. If there is even a slight change in either direction, the person will die. So the readings we take from the urine or saliva show what is being consumed in excess. The body must maintain this level of 7.4 in the blood by dumping excess acidifying minerals. Alkalizing minerals include calcium, magnesium, sodium, and potassium. Acidifying minerals are chlorine, phosphorus, and sulfur. Acids build up through normal metabolism. When acid is stored in the tissues, potassium and magnesium are overwhelmed. Joan V: “If you are sick, you need magnesium. Take magnesium until bowel tolerance is reached. (That means developing slight diarrhea.) It's important to take magnesium!” ******************
High Alkalinity in the Body
Though relatively uncommon, high alkalinity in the body causes many of the same kinds of mineral problems as acidity. This condition can cause the body to digest foods too slowly, giving rise to a toxic bowel and urinary tract problems. A high-alkaline condition is considered to be dangerous and generally takes longer for the body to correct than acidosis. It is often a result of alkaline drugs.
An alkaline system can give rise to:
Skin and liver problems.
Parasites, body odor and bad breath.
Allergies (food and environmental).
Chronic infections and weak conditions.
Constipation, slow bowels.
Test Your Acidity or Alkalinity with pH Strips It is important for you to test your pH level to determine if your body's pH needs immediate attention.
By using pH test strips, you can determine your pH factor quickly and easily in the privacy of your own home. If your urinary pH fluctuates between 6.0-6.4 in the morning and 6.4-7.0 in the evening, your body is functioning within a healthy range. If your saliva stays between 6.4 and 6.8 all day, your body is functioning within a healthy range.
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So.....the pH level of the blood is 7.4, and the optimal level in saliva/urine tests in 6.5.
As I said, anybody for a nice epsom salts bath with maybe a drop or two of lavender? (a very economical way of buying magnesium sulphate is in 25kg bags at the local agricultural supply outlet. It's a fraction of the price of small packets at the pharmacy and lasts forever.)
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Post by Cliff Mickelson on Sept 23, 2006 9:39:29 GMT -5
Hi Aussie:
Can you elucidate a bit more on the "colon" Cleanse? You mentioned it in passing,(pun intended) but,...it Sounds interesting!
-Cliff
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Post by thinker on Sept 23, 2006 11:18:30 GMT -5
Aussie, you are a doll!! Thank you for the hard work and research, again!! Your info is definitely food for thought, and I'm thinking.
As I surfed last night, I saw site after site where people are trying all kinds of things - if it weren't so serious, it would be hysterically funny. The forum full of herbalists was maybe the most entertaining. We all sound like Granny Clampett with our home remedies and suggestions. Bless us all!!
I figure the motto to literally live by is, "First, do no harm."
Your epsom salts bath prompted me to post the "Chain Reaction" thread - more curly thinking. I wasn't going to bother writing this, but maybe it's important, after all.
Thank you again, aussie. We can always count on our rocket scientist!
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Post by aussie on Sept 23, 2006 23:29:39 GMT -5
Hi Cliff
Of course I would be happy to share info about the colon cleanse....most people don't want to know.
It was part of an intensive detox programme and conducted in a fairly sterile environment by a very experienced qualified operator/naturopath.
For the first 4 days you go on a low reactive eating plan, eliminating the most common foods to which you may be sensitive e.g. sugar, wheat and dairy. This takes the burden off your liver. At the same time every night you take a colon cleanse product(made from magnesium).
Two days before the actual colon hydrotherapy I did a liver and gall bladder cleanse with lemon juice and olive oil. (That is a very interesting exercise and a separate subject, but it certainly works!)
During the 6 days of the colonics you eat no solid foods, only juiced beetroot, pumkin, carrot and celery, a powdered whey protein(so you do not start digesting your own muscles), a powdered formula(Missing Link), containing lots of green goodies like wheat grass, psyllium fibre and lots of water. (Plus any previous medications you have been prescribed.)
Your digestive system basically almost shuts down and your body switches from digestive mode to detoxification mode. You do not feel hungry, in fact you go on a real "high", but you still have the urge to actually chew something(like a big fat steak).
The colonic process is similar in principle to having an enema except the equipment used is much more sophisticated and sterilised. There are clear tubes in which you can observe the process of elimination being carried out.
The object of the exercise is to remove what is called "the rope". This is old faecal matter, made up of undigested food, particularly protein, and bacteria, "glued" onto the bowel wall over many years, sometimes since earlychildhood. The psyllium acts like claws to pull this off the bowel, and can be seen leaving the body, together with the worms and other matter. When the worms evacuate, they are already dead, as they have been starved to death. I had three different types.
The "rope" leaves your body during the third to fifth day of the procedure. Afterwards, your whole body feels unbelievably light...hard to describe(maybe because the "aliens" have gone).
I know other people who have had "colonics", but they have only had one a month or so. Apparently, that is a waste of time, as you don't lose the"rope" in one session; the digestive system really needs to almost shut down so you can starve the freeloader parasites.
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Post by sarahconnor on Oct 2, 2006 5:37:51 GMT -5
I want one of those colon cleanses!!
I have this d**n rope in me. It is doin its little number on my face again, it gave me a lovely lesion the other day, like a big blister then a big hole. I hit it with neat Friars Balsam, it has helped the lesion big time, but the rope is still in me...
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 20, 2006 11:41:32 GMT -5
Found some more interesting pH info.....
For those of you suffering from bladder infections or UTI type infections
Sip a baking soda shake.....
The natural alkalinizing quality of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) rebalances the urinary tract so quickly that it can relieve symptoms in 24 to 48 hours.....to use
Stir 1/2 teaspoon baking soda into 8 ounces filtered water. Sip four times daily for two days for best results.
Here is one for the skin......the skins natural pH is 5.5 to restore pH before moisturizing try this pH Restorer
3 cups distilled water 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar and 10 drops of your favorite essential oils (lavendar, lemon, tangerine) whatever you like
Store in spritz bottle and use after cleaning your skin but before moisturizer.....good for all skin types Yields approx 32 treatments....Shake before use....requires no refridgeration
When your skin maintains the correct pH balance it has a much better chance of fighting off infections....
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 20, 2006 11:43:43 GMT -5
That is funny I mean't teaspoon and look what came out.....Stir 1/2 teaspoon baking soda into 8 ounces
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 20, 2006 12:05:07 GMT -5
OK NOW this is really weird......you know what I am trying to type and that is what is coming up on the screen......THINKER I think my morse code is failing me.....
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Post by bpw on Oct 23, 2006 0:24:18 GMT -5
Hi -- new to this Board. I've developed Morgellon's just this past year. Thank God for this Board. I just wanted to let you know that there's a website called askmoreless.com that has lots of info on many ways to alkalinize the body. It's spawned from a forum on curezone.com, a great website, if you haven't seen it yet. I have been meaning to ask -- has anyone had any success, or tried, the protocol with tea tree oil and tansy? If so, any problems with taking the tea tree oil internally? Thanks!
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Post by aussie on Oct 23, 2006 1:06:15 GMT -5
Hi bpw--- Welcome to the board...you can join as a member, you know. Good to see you know about pH.
If you want to know about tea tree oil and tansy go to Page 3 of The General Board and look under "Simple Natural Cure that Really Works".
I can only speak of my own personal experiences and I would advise you to consider doing this protocol only under the guidance of a very experienced qualified natural practioner. Only short term use is recommended. These substances can be toxic if taken for more than the recommended period or in large doses. Please do not self diagnose. There may be contraindications depending upon your personal health issues.
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Post by aussie on Dec 14, 2006 7:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by bc on Dec 14, 2006 19:56:28 GMT -5
I had a ph body fluid test done. YOU allso have to get rid of candida . BEtonite reduces toxic overload (die off rection) removing toxins released by dying candida , . fiber plus the gel reduces toxic overload die off rection by absorbing toxins released by dying candida . it will gradullay ,gently scrapes away candida breeding ground (plaquing of fecal matter) FROM the instestinal wall . HERE what i had 2 do once a day 6oz water 2teaspoon candicid it 1 teaspoons fiber plus power and i scoop bentonite power had to shake it up drink it on empty stomach . for colon this what i took was called heel colon cleanser . He had me read books on the ph miracle and back to health by robert young . take care god loves us
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Post by sarahconnor on Dec 17, 2006 1:09:18 GMT -5
Oh yeah "Candida"!!
2 years ago I told the GP down the road I had been tested for candida and it shows in my blood. I asked him if he thought it could be related to all my terrible symptoms, particularly my skin symptoms.
Oh boy!!...he shot me down in flames, he said he doesn't believe in the candida/yeast over growth theory one bit!
Maybe he would think differently about candida and yeast if he didn't have his brain dangling between his legs!
I know...I'm awful, but ya gotta laugh hey?!!!!
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Post by aussie on Dec 17, 2006 1:22:50 GMT -5
Yeah, he probably thinks Candida is a new lolly!
You were unlucky, most younger mainstream doctors know about the effects of candida these days. The ones that don't sure like to patronise you, don't they?
As you say...ya gotta laugh...best medicine!
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Post by aussie on Dec 22, 2006 0:14:52 GMT -5
List of Alkaline / Acid Foods
ALKALIZING FOODS VEGETABLES Garlic Asparagus Fermented Veggies Watercress Beets Broccoli Brussel sprouts Cabbage Carrot Cauliflower Celery Chard Chlorella Collard Greens Cucumber Eggplant Kale Kohlrabi Lettuce Mushrooms Mustard Greens Dulce Dandelions Edible Flowers Onions Parsnips (high glycemic) Peas Peppers Pumpkin Rutabaga Sea Veggies Spirulina Sprouts Squashes Alfalfa Barley Grass Wheat Grass Wild Greens Nightshade Veggies FRUITS Apple Apricot Avocado Banana (high glycemic) Cantaloupe Cherries Currants Dates/Figs Grapes Grapefruit Lime Honeydew Melon Nectarine Orange Lemon Peach Pear Pineapple All Berries Tangerine Tomato Tropical Fruits Watermelon
PROTEIN Eggs Whey Protein Powder Cottage Cheese Chicken Breast Yogurt Almonds Chestnuts Tofu (fermented) Flax Seeds Pumpkin Seeds Tempeh (fermented) Squash Seeds Sunflower Seeds Millet Sprouted Seeds Nuts OTHER Apple Cider Vinegar Bee Pollen Lecithin Granules Probiotic Cultures Green Juices Veggies Juices Fresh Fruit Juice Organic Milk (unpasteurized) Mineral Water Alkaline Antioxidant Water Green Tea Herbal Tea Dandelion Tea Ginseng Tea Banchi Tea Kombucha
SWEETENERS Stevia
SPICES/SEASONINGS Cinnamon Curry Ginger Mustard Chili Pepper Sea Salt Miso Tamari All Herbs
ORIENTAL VEGETABLES Maitake Daikon Dandelion Root nutsake Kombu Reishi Nori Umeboshi Wakame Sea Veggies ACIDIFYING FOODS FATS & OILS Avocado Oil Canola Oil Corn Oil Hemp Seed Oil Flax Oil Lard Olive Oil Safflower Oil Sesame Oil Sunflower Oil
FRUITS Cranberries
GRAINS Rice Cakes Wheat Cakes Amaranth Barley Buckwheat Corn Oats (rolled) Quinoi Rice (all) Rye Spelt Kamut Wheat Hemp Seed Flour
DAIRY Cheese, Cow Cheese, Goat Cheese, Processed Cheese, Sheep Milk Butter NUTS & BUTTERS Cashews Brazil Nuts Peanuts Peanut Butter Pecans Tahini Walnuts
ANIMAL PROTEIN Beef Carp Clams Fish Lamb Lobster Mussels Oyster Pork Rabbit Salmon Shrimp Scallops Tuna Turkey Venison
PASTA (WHITE) Noodles Macaroni Spaghetti
OTHER Distilled Vinegar Wheat Germ Potatoes DRUGS & CHEMICALS Chemicals Drugs, Medicinal Drugs, Psychedelic Pesticides Herbicides
ALCOHOL Beer Spirits Hard Liquor Wine
BEANS & LEGUMES Black Beans Chick Peas Green Peas Kidney Beans Lentils Lima Beans Pinto Beans Red Beans Soy Beans Soy Milk White Beans Rice Milk Almond Milk
Perfect balanced pH =7.4
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Post by thinker on Jan 5, 2007 14:05:04 GMT -5
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