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Post by whiterose on Oct 18, 2007 9:03:47 GMT -5
Often, I consider that knowing about you has so changed my life. Before I knew there were others, I carried my secret close to my heart, knowing it was real but unable to speak with anyone about it, except bits and pieces to my husband. Than all of you came and I realized that this was to be life changing not only for myself and those lives I touched; but also, for you and the lives you affect. I spend many hours searching for the truth to bring us all to a better understanding of what is happening. As I was waking up this morning; still in the midst of a dream, I was told and repeated that all the people of this illness are related to the Kachina Doll. So here is a definition and I will post anything else I find today that seems relevant. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KachinaMany Blessings, whiterose
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Post by ::gazal:: on Oct 18, 2007 10:23:38 GMT -5
In Hopi, the word Kachina (Katsina or Qatsina) means literally "life bringer", and can be anything that exists in the natural world or cosmos. A Kachina can be anything from an element, to a quality, to a natural phenomenon, to a concept.
There are more than 400 different Kachinas in Hopi and Pueblo culture. ... The function of the dolls is to acquaint children with some of the many Kachinas.
In Hopi the word is often used to represent the spiritual beings themselves, the dolls, and the people who dress as Kachinas for ceremonial dances, which are understood to all embody aspects of the same belief system. Among other uses, the Kachinas represent historical events and things in nature, and are used to educate children in the ways of life. First time i hear this word! I must to get accustomed to its meaning... The morning dreams are the most important ones! If you can elaborate further the sense of this vision ... the better! ciao
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Post by whiterose on Oct 18, 2007 14:16:05 GMT -5
I will do my best to describe the first part of the dream, somehow when I first wrote about it; it seemed disjointed. In retrospect perhaps not as much as I thought.
There was a man (one of respect and high regard) who is married to a woman 10 years younger. I am 10 years younger than her.
The man was attracted to me, but I did not have the same attraction and also had the respect of the marriages in my heart.
I looked and his wife was there with no clothes, as was I. I noticed we were both petite, but her frame was more boyish and I saw myself dancing around with life. I saw her as alive but yet lifeless, if that makes sense. The setting seemed to be a hotel with many rooms.
Than a voice said, the people at the board (I knew it was referring to those here with the morgellons illness) are related to the Kachinia Doll. I than spoke in my dream and said the Kachina Doll, (my husband asked what I said) and so I repeated louder the Kachina Doll. And he started laughing and I woke up.
There you go gazal, your thoughts please.
ciao, whiterose
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Post by whiterose on Oct 18, 2007 15:10:03 GMT -5
I just spoke with an artists son, who's father was a collector of Kachina dolls and his explanation was that the Kachina Dolls that his father had were used to heal spirits.
Kachina Dolls could also be used like voodoo, in the negative; so in other words they could be used for good or bad purposes.
They are made of feathers and wood and painted with a lot of detail.
wr
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Post by skytroll on Oct 18, 2007 15:17:10 GMT -5
Zuni? Wow.
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Post by skytroll on Oct 18, 2007 15:21:13 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Oct 18, 2007 15:27:34 GMT -5
......"Authentic Kachina carvings (or dolls) will always be carved from Cottonwood root. interesting the cottonwood?....root.... "Skilled carvers make their Kachinas from just 1 piece of cottonwood root........" www.hopikachina.com/Okay,........wow........ I am intrigued........ SKytroll
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Post by skytroll on Oct 18, 2007 15:39:01 GMT -5
..."Chakwaina Sho-adta - Chakwaina's Grandmother - hsc162 Chakwiana represents Esteban the Moor who led the search for the Seven Cities of Cibola. Supposedly Chakwiana was killed at Zuni. Chakwiana is found in many pueblos along the Rio Grand. The story is that this beloved Kachina is her own grandmother." oh......WOW....... www.nativeamericanlinks.com/kachina/kachina.htmbean dance? o......my.........I think we have it in front of us? skytroll
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Post by silentlamb on Oct 18, 2007 18:02:53 GMT -5
Last week my child had a social studies lesson. Since I home educate, I had to go through the lesson too. One of the pages in the book used talked about the Kachina doll in depth. I learned all about it that day, last week. There was also a question about this on the test.
I think if we look hard enough the answers are provided. Thank you Whiterose.
Love you all.
sl
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Post by silentlamb on Oct 18, 2007 18:18:02 GMT -5
Owl Dancer This kachina has war with clowns because it disapproves of their behavior. As the clowns grow more boisterous, he appears and hoots solemnly. With each appearance he gets closer and soon ends up talking to the chief clown who blames the misbehavior on the other clowns. In the last dance he is joined by the other warrior kachinas and they douse the clowns with water, beating them with willow switches or yucca blades. americanindianonline.com/gift/detail.cfm?id=589sl
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Post by whiterose on Oct 18, 2007 20:13:34 GMT -5
WOW! Ask and you shall receive, you guys are stupendous--WOW!
One more thing I know I was asking folks about in the begining of the board was the blue star, and the fifth column. As we can see from Princess Ali's post the blue star connects with the frequencies and the Kachina. The fifth column sounds a lot like the fifth world, doesn't it.
Ok skytroll, if I get this wrong you clear it up, I did see the mention of mana, a bit like manna in the bible, which in Hebrew terminology means "What is it?" What else are you seeing?
Thanks for the addition silent lamb as well, the picture was a beautiful Kachina.
Honestly folks, I can't wait to go to sleep tonight! Thank You for all the input!
Big Hug, whiterose
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Post by skytroll on Oct 19, 2007 0:36:24 GMT -5
Mana can be magic in some peoples eyes, or it can be this: "However -- and here modern ideas differ from the older works mentioned above -- mana is not a fluid, flowing like electricity. Rather, it is an abstract quality, similar to what the West might call "grandeur" or even "holiness." Followers of most of the world's great religions worship holy relics of their saints and prophets, and they deeply respect the men and women who discover or maintain these items. If you gathered all the pieces of theTrue Cross enshrined in European cathedrals, you could build a treehouse. Buddhist temples in India and Southeast Asia keep relics of the Buddha, such as his teeth, and the stones he supposedly walked on. Tabloid stories tell about Mexican women who find the image of Jesus in a tortilla and thereby become popular with the neighbors. But no one thinks of this quality of "holiness" as a fluid, flowing from the True Cross to a worshipper, from the tortilla to the woman. The quality is contagious, but not quantifiable or materialistic. So it is with mana. No, it isn't universal among aboriginal cultures as anthropologists hoped. But mana shows one aspect of a more basic universal phenomenon: the recognition in all societies of a central spiritual reality. Whether they call it God, Allah, nirvana, patriotism, or mana, people everywhere behave as if something beyond the merely material guides their lives. It's something to think about, especially when your opponent is taking a long time to decide what card to play." www.allenvarney.com/av_mana.htmlabout the Basques?:mmmmm skytroll skytroll
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Post by ::gazal:: on Oct 19, 2007 5:41:59 GMT -5
If the people on this forum are kachina dolls, then they are witness proving an occult reality, the ones showing the power of the invisible over the perceptible, be it the nano-world or the spiritual side of phenomena...
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Post by ruth on Oct 19, 2007 11:33:08 GMT -5
and then there is the blue energy i have always seen under the microscope? would our control over these machines be thru that blue energy?
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Post by whiterose on Oct 19, 2007 16:47:03 GMT -5
Brilliant Ruth, something I was speaking with someone else about today, the control of the machines in our body. It seems to me that as with anything else we can choose to allow others to control our destiny, whether it be doctors, politicians, scientists, and the list goes on; or we can choose to control our own destiny. Here in lies the key, it is when we choose to control the machines inside of us for our benefit and not allow those who put them here to control them for their benefit; that we shall turn things around.
I suggest we all start looking at our nanos as a place to imprint our ideas for our life and our future. Electrical energy is created by most things in our world, you do something bad than it imprints on you and the sensitives of this world are able to read it. You do something good, that can also be seen.
Be loving, it shows in more ways than you can imagine.
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Post by ruth on Oct 20, 2007 12:01:49 GMT -5
thinking out loud: i've been looking at the hemi sync products wwwearthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=10as i have conflict where the nano's are concerned. on one side, they utilize any 'other' microbe that tries to enter me, 'for lunch'. there is a sort of protection there. the evolution we are witnessing just shows us the necessity of connecting to the light for mind over matter. moving mountains, if you will. to control these machines. not them control us. i am looking for a way to direct these internal machines to do no bodily harm, to keep the intestines open, etc.etc. symbiosis. i have been thinking about a machine to sit in the middle of the room that emits the right hz. experiments show a whole town can get angry or happy with the right hz directed at it.
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Post by ::gazal:: on Oct 21, 2007 6:06:27 GMT -5
thinking out loud: i've been looking at the hemi sync products wwwearthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=10as i have conflict where the nano's are concerned. on one side, they utilize any 'other' microbe that tries to enter me, 'for lunch'. there is a sort of protection there. the evolution we are witnessing just shows us the necessity of connecting to the light for mind over matter. moving mountains, if you will. to control these machines. not them control us. i am looking for a way to direct these internal machines to do no bodily harm, to keep the intestines open, etc.etc. symbiosis. i have been thinking about a machine to sit in the middle of the room that emits the right hz. experiments show a whole town can get angry or happy with the right hz directed at it. The right link is (missed the dot): www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=10The chance to control and influence these nano-machines in your own body is the most fascinating task one could think and a skill to try learning sistematically.
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Post by whiterose on Oct 21, 2007 9:07:56 GMT -5
It is fascinating isn't it; perhaps like taking the lemon and making lemonade.
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Post by ::gazal:: on Oct 21, 2007 11:46:43 GMT -5
one more trouble...
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Post by ruth on Oct 22, 2007 12:33:23 GMT -5
thanks gazal for the link.
so.........................which of these do you think would be the one to try? i'll look for it free online.
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Post by whiterose on Nov 19, 2007 21:40:23 GMT -5
Comet Holmes as the Blue Kachina---- Posted: 2007 Nov 19, 5:15 am Post subject: Is Comet 17P/Holmes the 'Blue Kachina'? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is Comet 17P/Holmes the 'Blue Kachina'? As outlined in the 1963 book "Book of the Hopi" by Frank Waters, unprecedented information has come forward. Waters had the phenomenal experience of living with the Hopi for nearly three years. He was giving information by highly positioned elders which had been kept a close secret within the Hopi community since the beginning of tribal ceremonies. Here Frank Waters describes in his own words which outlines his unique exposure and depth of trust shared by Hopi elders: "Work on the project (book) required nearly three years. Much of this time I lived on the reservation---with my research co-worker Oswald White Bear Fredericks. The discourses of our Hopi spokesmen were taken down in Hopi on a tape recorder by White Bear, who later translated them into English. All the Hopi spokesmen willingly and freely gave the information---none of them was paid informant fees in the manner customarily followed by professional researchers. This great cooperative effort could not have been obtained before, nor could it be obtained now; already some of the older spokesmen have died. Their traditions come to us by the dictate of fate we call fortuitous chance, at the time when we, as they, most need them." It has been reported that certain elders have said most people will reject the sign of 'blue sun' and stay with the 'red sun'. Those who are more awakened will be drawn to the 'blue sun'. Reality will then split---the few who have divested themselves of the earthly drama (harmful patterns/relationships) will follow the 'blue sun' and end up on an Earth that is love based. The vast majority who are still fighting change and to remain with the 'known' instead of being open to 'unknown', will stay with the 'red sun' and will find themselves stuck in old ways of thinking and would bring forth devastation and great harm to man and earth. "Comet 17P/Holmes Bigger Than Sun" www.ifa.hawaii.edu/faculty/jewitt/holmes.html News Release - AP, CNN, ABC, REUTERS "Spectacular outbursting comet 17P/Holmes exploded in size and brightness on October 24. It continues to expand and is now the largest single object in the Solar system, being bigger than the Sun." Comet 17P/Holmes shocked astronomers on Oct. 24, 2007, with a spectacular eruption. In less than 24 hours, the 17th magnitude comet brightened by a factor of nearly a million becoming a naked-eye object in the evening sky. Look for a golden 2.5th magnitude fuzzball in the constellation Perseus after sunset. Hubble Zooms In On Heart of Mystery Comet NASA NASA's Hubble Space Telescope has probed the bright core of Comet 17P/Holmes, which, to the delight of sky watchers, mysteriously brightened by nearly a million-fold in a 24-hour period beginning Oct. 23, 2007. Astronomers used Hubble's powerful resolution to study Comet Holmes' core for clues about how the comet brightened. The orbiting observatory's Wide Field Planetary Camera 2 (WFPC2) monitored the comet for several days, snapping images on Oct. 29, Oct. 31, and Nov. 4. Hubble's crisp "eye" can see objects as small as 33 miles (54 kilometers) across, providing the sharpest view yet of the source of the spectacular brightening. Latest Comet 17P/Holmes Update As of November 17th, the central coma exceeds the angular size of the Moon; the entire coma is much larger than that. More at the link provided--- _____________________________ How Sacred Hopi Prophecy Was Passed to the White Man As described in Walters 1963 book "Book of the Hopi": The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said: "I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter. And now White Feather (I) is (am) dying. His (my) sons have all joined his (my) ancestors, and soon he (I) too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short." _______________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello A few days ago i had a dream i was standing outside, some man told me to look up, and I saw a large blueish object in the sky. Everything would be normal. but, when i went outside, i was reminded of the dream. and I knew exactly which part of the sky I saw the object in the dream, I can pinpoint the exact spot of the blue object in waking life, and what really tripped me out was when I surfed the net that day, and the new pictures of holmes came out, it was exactly what I saw in the dream the night before... The atmosphere in the dream was one of significance, what I was looking at in the dream, was a really BIG thing in that dream world, it seemed like it was a global event, everybody was talking about it. and it was HUGE. www.redicecreations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1620&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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