Bacillus Subtilis has been looked at many times as the possible fibers for obvious reasons - the growth, movement, etc. But microscopically they are very different.
It is pretty clear that these fibers are a new and unique substance (and does not have cells, like Bacillus S. has).
As tiresome as the discussions about the fibers have become, there is only one scientist (Dr. Staninger) who seems to have identified them. A lot of questions persist about that identification, though, and can only be settled if the actual lab reports are made public.
In th meantime, Dr. Wymore is in the process of having his own analysis done. Hopefully that will settle it one way or the other.
I just wonder why, after 7 years, the MRF has never done this. Instead, they examine pathogens in a hot water tank. Makes no sense to me at all.
Last Edit: Jul 25, 2009 9:31:25 GMT -5 by sunnydaze
I think they got off tract because somebody found them in the tank. Of course they are in the tank...because they are everywhere. All one has to do is to LOOK UP, and analyze that which falls and compare it to what is in, and coming out, of our bodies. It is in EVERYTHING. The air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat, the clothes we wear. When it falls from the sky per chemtrails, it gets on everything, so why would it not be in a hot water tank too?
Sorry if I sound a little snippy, I guess I am sleepy and frustrated with it too. I have had it for three years and I wish they could come up with an answer very soon. I just want us all to be healed ASAP. This is no way to live.
And there are other reasons to question that hot water tank study - the most important of which is that the pathogens they identified have NOT been established as being part of Morgellons. So why bother? "Phase 2" was supposed to correlate these pathogens to those found on/in a Morgellons sufferer. But they have been silent about the status of "Phase 2". And isn't that the cart before the horse???
Also, not every pathogen found in/on someone with Morgellons is necessarily a part of Morgellons. We are a long way off from making that conclusion. What HAS to happen first is that the things that are UNIQUE to people with Morgellons - like the fibers and black specks - MUST be 100% analyzed.
After that step, then these secondary pathogens can be looked at as possibly being a part of the disease process. I mean, staph is everwhere and on everyone, and always has been. Why focus on staph? We should be looking only at what is uniquely Morgellons and go from there.
Again, I am challenging the MRF to examine and identify these Morgellons "things". Why are they wasting donated money on hot water tanks while ignoring the Morgellons pathogens? It is stupid to the point of being suspicious. It just doesn't pass the smell test. And I am beginning to get angry with this organization, especially when assertions like Mary L. is "the sole authority" on Morgellons. BS.
Last Edit: Jul 26, 2009 9:36:13 GMT -5 by sunnydaze
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May 2, 2021 18:13:30 GMT -5
aarjay: Hi Folks, I do not have Morgellons disease. In this video Doctor Christiane Northrup at mark 59:04 describes an alpha bath to remove fibers from the skin. brighteon.com/5fc47f25-dab5-472e-aa50-44e19ce141af[/b] Then shower using peppermint soap
May 6, 2021 12:09:58 GMT -5
Admin: Pushing in any direction does not usually hold the truth, the truth doesn't have to push ever!!!
May 9, 2021 20:16:04 GMT -5
Admin: the Truth just is!
May 12, 2021 1:45:20 GMT -5
Gerry: Hi everyone,
May 27, 2021 11:28:57 GMT -5
Gerry: Marc Neumann from Germany made in the last years many lab testings, and he found out filamentous biofilm bacteria is the cause of Morgellons
May 27, 2021 11:29:56 GMT -5
Gerry: The pesticide industry like BAYER, BASF are culprit
May 27, 2021 11:31:24 GMT -5
Admin: Marc has a good site, don't agree with everything he says, filaments and biofilm also shown to come in cows with mad cow that also have presence of Lyme, they go together and thinkthe pestcide helps to wear down our immune system
May 28, 2021 16:15:25 GMT -5
Admin: JG Farber has there hands in this big time for sure/ connection to Bayer, Thank You Gerry
May 28, 2021 16:16:07 GMT -5
Admin: Marc has been very abusive in the past, just an FYI so be very careful, walk softly and carry a big stick:)
May 28, 2021 19:52:12 GMT -5
Admin: info is correct but not everything
May 28, 2021 21:18:38 GMT -5
If u have Morgellons u will no: Hey there stranger I would be glad to help u anyway I.could I didn't see ur video I hope I'm doing this right I do a lot to combat my Morgellons I had it five years ago an it took two years taking nutrasilverit cured me it just took a long time well it did
May 29, 2021 11:55:59 GMT -5
Admin: Hey, I've had it 41 years, actually put it into remission several times; this happens to many people and then any kind of stressful events bring it back with a vengeance. I use St. George Nano Silver, the best I've found anywhere, Thanks for the kindness
May 29, 2021 16:27:12 GMT -5
Admin: the video I just posted tells the story of us all in our search for health, God Bless Her and pass this forward!!!!!
Jun 4, 2021 11:43:45 GMT -5
alichat444: I have had Morgellons disease since 1989 and it has had many flare ups during that time with all the symptoms everyone states. I am now 78 years and the last three years my symptoms have become extremely bothersome and painful. tried nutra silver still
Jun 8, 2021 18:01:29 GMT -5
Admin: I will keep you in my prayers, I do understand, very much so, God Bless
Jun 9, 2021 0:20:01 GMT -5