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Post by Awake on Jul 6, 2008 19:12:25 GMT -5
What's wrong about bible scripture
This is what i don't understand about bible scripture especially the laws given to moses by god to give the seven commandments by which the people must live by.
The laws of god given to the Israelites was spoken by the prophet moses in Leviticus, it specks of the disease leprosy as if it were the persons fault and he or she was deemed "unclean" by the priest, and that person must suffer from a disease which he or she was being blamed for.
Is this gods will as stated in the seven commandments, and would god deem morgellons victims "unclean" in the same way suffers of leprosy were deemed unclean in the past?
That is according to the seven commandments.
I just don't understand why this is so.
any ideas...
-Awakening2012-
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Post by jesusheals on Jul 6, 2008 20:37:17 GMT -5
What's wrong about bible scripture This is what i don't understand about bible scripture especially the laws given to moses by god to give the seven commandments by which the people must live by. The laws of god given to the Israelites was spoken by the prophet moses in Leviticus, it specks of the disease leprosy as if it were the persons fault and he or she was deemed "unclean" by the priest, and that person must suffer from a disease which he or she was being blamed for. Is this gods will as stated in the seven commandments, and would god deem morgellons victims "unclean" in the same way suffers of leprosy were deemed unclean in the past? That is according to the seven commandments. I just don't understand why this is so. any ideas... -Awakening2012- I believe that if you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and have placed your faith in what He has accomplished for you by way of His suffering, death, burial, and resurrection (forgiveness of sins, etc), then you are a new creation (2 Corinth 5:17) - you have been rescued from the dominion of darkness and transferred to the kingdom of God's Son (Col.1:13). You are no longer under the law of Moses, but you are under grace (Romans 6:14). However, the bible tells us to be transformed by renewing our mind (Romans 12:2). It also tells us to repent for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand (Matthew 4:17). Positionally, you are saved if you have accepted Christ (as noted above), but we need to possess our vessels (bodies, minds) in sanctification and honor (1 Thes. 4:4). We achieve this by diligently seeking God (Hebrews 11:6), turning from sinful practices and turning to Jesus Christ (repent), practicing mercy and forgiveness (Matthew 18), confessing our sins (1 John 1:9), and reading/believing/understanding God's word. Thus, it is NOT God's will that you have Morgellons (Matthew 8:2-3, Acts 10:38). However, we do have a part to play and this will possibly take time and great effort before your deliverance/healing is realized. I hope this makes sense! Blessings! Greg
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Post by kammy on Oct 18, 2008 3:09:00 GMT -5
Well... personally, I don't believe we can take the modern day Bible literally, afterall, it has been translated 5 times to get to our current English version. You have to realize that it was to the benefit of the next generation of each "Bible writer" the scribes to add and delete 'whatever' to keep the people 'in line'. To create fear - is one of the oldest forms of getting a people to 'mind'. That possibly, the original words were similiar but not literal to what you're reading today?
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Post by roogirl on Oct 18, 2008 3:31:54 GMT -5
OOOHHHhhhh..... well maybe they should have kept the bible in Latin. Translation alters the meaning, Latin is a very complex language. Mind you this is a very clever world - surely someone would have figured it all out by now. Here's a symptom of mine. someone was enquiry as to how I'm going. i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq231/blackhole2008/Deschamps174.jpg
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Post by roogirl on Oct 18, 2008 3:33:18 GMT -5
I've got my "eye" on you!!!!!! HaHA! ;D sorry I just had to
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Post by morph on Oct 18, 2008 11:26:02 GMT -5
Kammy, You put the bible exactly as it is, mans scare book to believe in gods greatness. Man wrote the book as if god were man, man is vengful, man is proud, man is greedy, I would think god is not. I am using a very important tool to decide this, the brain that god gave me.
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Post by morph on Oct 18, 2008 11:49:59 GMT -5
The idea that babies are born with original sin is the bibles way to say we all will be punished for what others have done. It is like beating a woman that is pregnant for birthing sinners. When children are born with a killing disease should we consider them EVIL SINNERS. Well if thats the case I will have toi look at God and Jesus in a different light. I will have to believe they are the sinners and ignorant sinners at that. If I was to follow the bible I may want to sacrifice my children, as they are only sinners anyway. I could probably have done it when they were born so they would not have sinned again, after all going to heaven with only one sin WOW. Woops I forgot, no baptism and no communion gotta stay at another location, no heaven for these evil baby's. Lets blame the babies for being born to parents that would sacrifice them, beat them burn them, then the people that beat their children to death can have a reason instead of being sick they can just be doing gods will on earth. Hey if my dog bites the crap out of you its because you are a devil, just do me a favor don't sue me as it was GODS WILL!!!!! ha ha ha ha ha ha Thank you god for the small pleasures !!! The zealots that wrote the book had more in store for us than redemtion more like control. I am not against the story in the bible, it is a great history book with the wisdom of the ages, answers to a better and comfortable life. Just try this once, try to be a good Samaratin, it has its reward!
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Post by jesusheals on Oct 18, 2008 12:59:27 GMT -5
You guys are giving me too much material to work with. Where do I start? Brain over-load Here's what's wrong with Bible scripture: You don't believe it. The Bible says that "The entirety of Your word is truth..." (Psalm 119:160), and, "Man doesn't live by bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God." Matthew 4:4 Some of the most recent translations of the Bible may contain parts that could have been more accurately translated. However, there are numerous translations that are very accurate with respect to being a word for word translation of the original Greek and Hebrew texts. The best English translation in my opinion is either the King James or New King James Version. If you disbelieve the Bible or take it "a la carte" then you are essentially calling God a liar (see above scripture). You are not offending me at all by doing this, but it does make me very sad for you. I strongly believe that God is the only way that you're going to receive healing from Morgellons, and rather than running to Him, you're comments indicate that some of you are running away from Him. Thus, you've rejected God - and He has (at least in part) rejected you and given you over to your spiritual enemy. There's Good News though; God is merciful and full of love. Turn to Him diligently and receive deliverance (Hebrews 11:6). He loves you with the genuine love of a Father. He knew in advance the horrible, sinful things you have done in your life - and yet He still died for you (Romans 5:8). Psalm 20:7 says, "Some trust in chariots, and some in horses; But we will remember the name of the LORD our God." Likewise, some trust in ointments, some trust in technology; But I trust in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the power of His word and shed blood.
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Post by roogirl on Oct 18, 2008 17:06:26 GMT -5
jesusheals - that was really nice, thanks.
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Post by morph on Oct 18, 2008 20:57:18 GMT -5
When god write a book you tell me where he will be, I want mine autographed. The bible is a book , derived by man. God has never put into my heart to worship a book written be the hand of man. God wrote in our hearts all we need, god would not scare us into loving him, if you don't do this I will do that to you. If you steal a lamb I will starve you. If you lie I will cut out your tongue. If you want to look at a humble, gracious, kind and loving bunch, head for Thailand. You know even when they have a forceful government takeover, NOBODY was killed. What will god do to these buddist religion people that are good on this earth. I will tell you what happens to them according to the GOOD BOOK they will be cast into hell fire because they did not follow the rule book. God in his PRIDE will not allow anyone to come into heaven that WORSHIPED only him, wow, a prideful and vengeful god, sounds more like Dracula. I have read your holy book and if 1 tenth of what it says is true, God would be held accountable for ethnic clensing, murder , child abuse and a host of other things considered crimes. He would also be held in contemp for making 11 year old girls ready to bear fruit, or are you saying that he made a mistake on this point. It seems that every other animal on earth breeds when it is ready, what happened to the humans that are suppossed to follow him, was he wrong. I want you to answer that SIMPLE question. This book you read is at best the story of mankind his PRIDE and ruthless manner's in all that he does. The bible itself has all the answers on life guidence by determined by who, you, dave, sam, debbie, who is the final word.
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Post by downunder on Oct 19, 2008 7:17:15 GMT -5
jesusheals - well said.
Kammy - (Can't take the modern day bible literally): - if you don't believe it, you don't believe it - end of story.
Morph: I don't think the Bible mentions babies born with original sin - I think that's "man-made" from the Catholic denomination.
Awake - re the lepers - that's the Old Testament under the Law as jesusheals rightly said above. The Law does not apply in the New Covenant between God and Man through Jesus. His Grace is sufficient if you are in Christ.
No argument with anyone here - To me the Bible is TRUTH and alive and all I can say from my heart is simply that I know, what I know, what I know and THAT cannot be explained in anyway whatsoever.
AND God is a gentleman, He will not force Himself into your life - He will wait until you INVITE Him into your life.
It's simple fact some people will never believe in the Bible or the Word of God - that is also written in the Bible.
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Post by morph on Oct 19, 2008 10:33:56 GMT -5
I think the illustrious Downunder has a point here, wow, you can teach an old dog new tricks!
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned (Rom. 5:12). ...or as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive (1 Cor. 15:22). (Also note Rom. 5:17-19). Despite these clear claims on the part of Paul, where are we to find the basis for them in Genesis? In that text, God pronounces all sorts of condemnations and curses upon Adam, Eve and the nefarious Serpent - working for their food, pain in childbirth, being stepped on, etc. Here is the relevant passage for reference:
The Lord God said to the serpent, Because you have done this, cursed are you among all animals and among all wild creatures; upon your belly you shall go, and dust you shall eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will strike your head, and you will strike his heel.” To the woman he said, I will greatly increase your pangs in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” And to the man he said, Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten of the tree about which I commanded you, You shall not eat of it, cursed is the ground because of you; in toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life; thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; you are dust, and to dust you shall return.” (Genesis 3:14-19) At no point do we see anything that might qualify as a curse of “Original Sin” to be handed down to all of Adam’s descendants. Sure, their lives are supposed to become much more difficult than what they had heretofore experienced; but where in all of that is the “Sin” being passed along?
This is just one artical on that suject there are thousands apon thousands!
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Post by morph on Oct 19, 2008 10:49:09 GMT -5
The bible is a wonderful text, with an extream reading. I have read all of the old testament, the large paper thin page huge family bible long ago. It does some time chalenge the readers attention span, but on the whole it is a GREAT story about the people involved and the rise of the Christian religion which is actually the Jewish religion with a twist. The Jews believe Jesus was not the son of god, and the son of god is yet to come.
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Post by kammy on Oct 28, 2008 14:12:55 GMT -5
Look, Downunder - you are assuming and jumping to conclusions based on your assumptions.
If you are really interested in what the Bible has to offer - you first need to do some research on how the Bible got to be as we are reading it today. That is my point - not that I don't believe.
The Romans (Catholics) took control of the word, and "created" what is in existence today! Do I need to say more? I respect all religions, however, I believe that the Romans and the Jews before them, and the others before the Romans - ALL had ulterior motives in modifying the words to suit their beliefs or religious needs.
The original words were in Aremian (sp?), the language still spoken in parts of Egypt today. Then translated to Hebrew.
Here's an example. I often wondered how did homosexuals - supposedly 1/10th of the population get to be sinners - even though I believe that it can be genetic that people are this way... etc., that they aren't necessarily sinners and doomed to hell because of it.
I did my research. There was NO such word as 'homosexual' in the Hebrew society. That same with same has always been in existence in the history of man. There was one word - 'quedesh' that meant prostitution in the temples, sex outside of marriage, etc., that the later scribes - decided to make this word into 'homosexual'. The Romans wanted the people to procreate - so that they would have future tithers. Money, to be given to the church.
That the Hebrew councel of judges (Sandredin) which documented and we can read today, did not bring one case before them for same with same marriages/living together. That it was accepted in Hebrew society if the partners were basically in loving monogamous relationships.
That possibly God didn't make a mistake by having 1/10th of the population not interested in procreating... that if this 1/10 had been procreating all along - the world would not even be in existence today due to over-population? Use your common sense, based on intelligent facts - that's all I'm saying. The Scribes - all had ulterior motives when they modified the words.
Also, there are 50? books of the Bible that have been omitted... one of the existing books refers to one of the omitted books...why was it censored? I'm saying that certain parts have pretty much been left alone, as they were - such as The Psalms, and other sections were omitted or modified, and I use my discretion to determine what is true or false for my belief system, as anyone with a thinking mind - should, based on the history of how the word has come to be presented to us today.
That we can believe that blue is red... if we want to - but, some of us know that blue is blue without it taking away anything. In fact - it only adds to, have you ever read one of the omitted books to see what it has to offer you? The saddness for some might be that those of us that are so closeminded to not ever want to know the true colors of the rainbow... sadness that some of us don't have a 'thinking' mind - we can only follow like the lost sheep that we are... which has lead us to where we are today.
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Post by downunder on Oct 28, 2008 18:40:38 GMT -5
(Look, Downunder - you are assuming and jumping to conclusions based on your assumptions)
I never "assume" - it makes an ass out of u and me. All you have laid out on the history, I already knew and have investigated.
I simply believe and don't get tied up in translations and having come initially from a Catholic background I am well aware of the man-made rules/word manipulation.
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Post by Awake on Oct 28, 2008 19:59:10 GMT -5
Here's what i have to say. The Bibles true meaning has been manipulated over the centeries to mis-lead god's people. The orignal scripture has been changed to suit the ends of Satanists, who actually rule the world. These "satanists" are our politicians of today. Whatever it be the Romans or other ancient empire they ALL whated to rule the world and enslave and murder god's believer's. Every political dictatorship in history has one thing at it's core and that is Satanism. They are all hevely into the acult the only diffirence today is that they hide this fact or they hide behind the bible... A good example is Hiter who whated to rule the world. Hiter was hevely into the acult and whated to erraicate the jewish population. What you do not realize thou is that there are two factions of "Jews" the ones who believe the Torah and the Satanist Jews who believed the Talmud... which is the satanic version of the Torah. The talmud gos back to ancient babylon which was a cult. Hiter whated to kill the torah belieing Jews so all that remaind was the Talumdic Jews. Today it's the Talmudic Jews who are dominate and claim to be real bloodline jews, but are actually involved in the acult and are the driving force behind today's politics. It's called Zionism. It's is behind the NWO. The rest of what i would like to state is beyond this discussion and maybe upsetting. Believe, don't believe it don't really bother me! We have all been greatly deceved... Please do some research!! Awakeee
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Post by downunder on Oct 28, 2008 20:19:10 GMT -5
believe or don't believe -mmmmm
Satan - the opportunist weadles his way in wherever a door opens. The Accuser I sense his presence emanating through accusations even here.
Get Behind Me Satan you have no power
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Post by jesusheals on Oct 28, 2008 21:59:05 GMT -5
Friends,
The Bible is accurate, true, and eternal (2 Peter 1:16, Psalm 119:160, 1 Peter 1:25).
Rather than writing a 1500 word defense of this position, I'd like to suggest that you visit a church or similar organization that is skilled in ministering deliverance from spiritual affliction - so that you can see and experience the truth of God's word, and the power of the Holy Spirit and blood of Jesus Christ, first hand.
Most importantly, let's be sure to love and be patient with one another. God bless!
In Christ Jesus, Greg
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Post by downunder on Oct 28, 2008 23:32:52 GMT -5
Agree jesusheals but not necessarily that this is spiritual affliction. Patience - unfortunately we are all human and currently afflicted so it is understandable that patience will, at times, run out in frustration but my strength, forgiveness, healing and trust is in Jesus as it is for anyone who wishes to receive it.
In answer to a question put to me above - I know 100% what the bible has to offer - TRUTH. It's a personal spiritual belief and knowing and I don't in fact need to see it to believe it, (just like the wind), or do any further research. I won't knock those who wish to research, evaluate, decide, believe or not believe but I am at peace with my spiritual awareness and research will not enhance that one little bit for me personally.
Research is a human need of this world and spirituality is not and there is no earthly way to logically explain spirituality - it's not possible. Just as my fast and incredible improvement in the last 3-4 weeks cannot really be explained.
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Post by morph on Oct 29, 2008 2:01:46 GMT -5
I asked a question of god long ago, he actually answered, the answer was LOUD and CLEAR, you know what he said? I AM! that was all That was the answer to my question I saw no man or book there.
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Post by Awake on Oct 29, 2008 9:04:12 GMT -5
Blind faith without reason will open the door for deception!, and unfortunelty already has for the vast majority. The Jews were LIED to they were told they were being relocated - that's why they did not resist...until it was to late. don't you think the same could happen in modren day America?!
Home repossesions poeple never seen again because they are told by the "freedom loving" goverment they are being "relocated" The truth is the enemy hides behind the Bilbe and makes enemies out of poor countires. Then when someone don't agree with the "system" they are a terrorist.
I'm just TRYING to peel back the lies and deception - not saying anything else.
Awake
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Post by jesusheals on Oct 29, 2008 13:11:27 GMT -5
"It invades the whole body and dos get into the brain and has kind of a mental "interface"
"brain fog" is not something that gos away with this disease."
"remember it is not a skin disease but a systemic one that invades all the organs inlculding the brain.
"It penatrates all of the organ systems including and unfortunity the brain."
"I believe it has some sort of mental interface." Awake, these are some of your most recent quotes. There are more that could have been used. Considering this, do you think that it's possible that you might be the one that is being deceived? Satan is known as the father of lies and his primary battlefield is your mind. Genesis 3:13 says, "And the LORD God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?” The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.” The very thing that you need to be reading, believing, and living, is the very thing your spiritual enemy has convinced you that you need to avoid - and this is exactly what is in his nature to do because he is a liar who seeks to kill and destroy (John 10:10). He (Satan) does this because he hates you and hates the fact the you have been created in the image of God and hates the fact that God has offered you redemption whereas his eternal destiny in hell has already been decided. Not every conspiracy you read about on the internet is truthful. In fact, it is probably quite the opposite. Rather the filling you minds with deception, I recommend filling your minds with truth. Christ said, "The truth will make you free (John 8:32)." If the truth will make you free, doesn't it stand to reason that lies will keep you in bondage? For instance, what if a young child believes that he was the cause for his parents divorce - nothing could be further from the truth but yet because of his young age he wrongly believes that he is responsible. This lie will cause the child to feel guilt and remorse and cause him to have some degree of low self-esteem and will likely have negative consequences (bondage) on his future until he is able to understand and accept the truth. Likewise, if we indulge ourselves in lies and false conspiracies, rather than truth, then the result of our choices will be mental (and even physical) bondage. I believe that knowing truth is an important component to being healed and delivered from Morgellons. I believe that the Bible is truth and is a valuable tool in your arsenal against the mental and physical assaults of the enemy. The devil desperately wants you to avoid truth and he is very crafty and will use his cunning, smarts, and experience to keep you in darkness. Resist him, submit to God, and he will flee (James 4:7). Truly, Greg
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Post by Awake on Oct 29, 2008 16:52:47 GMT -5
Ok, Jesusheals it seems we are on a different wave length altogether and that's fine, i have no problem with that. I am not asking you to believe anything i say. I simply look for the reasons behind my beliefs and that's called logic. There are many ways of interpreting the bible, haven't you ever thought that you may have mis-interpreted scripture? or that you might have been delibrartely lead astray by the people you trust? The chruches for example. Obvering the world today who do you think is in control and bringing wars, famines and PLAUGES, like morgellons to the whole world and also decieving you and everybody else in the chruches today. It could only be Satan - the father of lies and deception. what if god what's his people to come back to him, but they are decievd and in apostasy against him! and Satan was in god's place -because after all Satan wanted to be like god. That is why he rebeld against god. What if gods people don't even know they are being lied to, and are ingnorent of this FACT. Blind falth, in other words never qustioning the meaning of scripture or anythng else for that matter. Indeed It's true that there are two forces at work one is satan and the other is god the Creator. God will always have superiority over satan because he was a created being in the first place, But god allows satan to do what he's doing - that is deceving and missleading gods people. HE allows it. God uses Satan for this own purpose to test mankind and he asks the question "who do you LOVE the most?" In today's society no one takes action they just except everything as the norm this makes it very easy for Satan. people are just herded around like sheep. Are you one of the herd? Again i will reitatate: I am not asking you to "Believe" i am only pointing out were you have gone wrong. What if Satan was planing a fake rapture for intance and was coming as "Jesus" how many Christians would be deceivd, probably millions. Here's anohter angle to take on scripture - involving how it all began and the interpretation of genesis: www.sherryshriner.net/sherry/in-the-beginning.htmCould this be right? - in my opinion yes it is, Awake
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Post by downunder on Oct 29, 2008 17:58:46 GMT -5
I think young Awake here is a little bit of a hustler ;D A lot of what you are saying Awake has earthly truth in it and yes, scriptures can be interepreted in many ways. It's the main reason I am not "religious".
Satan will deceive through lies and any other weakness he knows is within man - and they are many as we all know. I cannot "logically" explain the Bible and my love of the WORD to you. I cannot "logically" give you any answers to much of what you say. The bible is "alive" and that is not logic either I know.
All I can say is what I have said before: I know, what I know, what I know and the Protector God has given us and the connection for us to God - is Jesus.
There is no doubt Satan will come and pretend to be Jesus returning - think we have seen some of these tricks in the world already. The protection against deception is Jesus and His Love for us - God's Love for us.
The only earthly way I can put this to you is: my love for my children. They have all done much throughout their lives that have torn my heart out. They have never wanted to listen to any warnings I may have given them taking a particular path but steadfastly and obstinately at times, pushed forward on it - eventually bringing them hurt in most areas of their lives. (Haven't we all done this? - I know I have).
It's part of growth. However, even having torn my heart out - how I have ached at times for them with so much love but no power to change it UNTIL they TURNED TO ME with a greater understanding of what that LOVE I had for them mean't and how I had always being trying to protect them. My LOVE for them was not "testing" them, it was unconditional and I longed so much to PROTECT them.
I see this as how God the father's love for us is. The Protector He has given us is Jesus but until we have done what we have to do as my children did, and pretty much reached the end of ourselves and finally see the deceptions of Satan, we won't turn to Him to RECEIVE that LOVE and PROTECTION.
God bless
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Post by jesusheals on Oct 29, 2008 20:06:36 GMT -5
Awake,
Thanks for your response. I apologize if I've offended you. I have no interest in winning an argument with you. On the contrary, I want you and the others to be healed. This is my only purpose on this forum.
My only question for you is this: Has believing these various conspiracies contributed to your healing or are you in fact becoming worse?
If you want to believe the things that you are promoting so be it, you're neither hurting nor offending me. But if you eventually find that these beliefs have not benefited your situation, I hope you'll reconsider my position. God bless.
In Christ Jesus, Greg
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Post by morph on Oct 30, 2008 5:29:50 GMT -5
I have been healing up just fine, thank god, with my thoughts allowed and inspired by god. I thank him for a thinking mind, as I am and never will be a sheeple, driven by the fear of the unknown. The bible is a manifestation of man, an exciting text of history but smeared by mans simple, greedy, proud, vengeful, ugly demanding ways.
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Post by Awake on Oct 30, 2008 13:44:43 GMT -5
"I think young Awake here is a little bit of a hustler" - Haha downunder you make me laugh... Jeuesheals, I noticed you quoted my recent posts - what i find amuseing is that they all pertain to how morgellons effects my brain! Now that don't look too good when I'm trying to promote what you would call "conspriacy theoreis" dos it! : P.. I do believe within reason that we should look into things, not just except them for what they are or what they appear to be or, becuase some one with "authority" over you tell's you how to intreprete holy scripture! Eg. your Church pastors
consider this for intence: There might have been a pre Adamic civilization on earth and the other planet's before Satan's first rebellon agianst god....when he rebelld the planet's were judged and god completly destoryed the angelic civilzations with hail stones of fire. who taken part in the rebellon. The one's who survived gods judgment were forced into the inners of these planets and created undergound cites. This is were Satans forces have been ever since..so when it refer to "Hell" it is actually talking about these ancient underground cites! that's from the article i posted above. I'm just asking you to consider a different angle on the event's pertaining to our biblical history! The Bible speaks of Lucifer’s rebellion in Isaiah 14:12-14 “How are thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven,I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High" In Ezekial 28 it says: You were the anointed cherub that covers, and I had put you in the holy height of God... I'm not saying it's all wirtten in the book of Genesis, What i think is that the evedence for this past pre adamic Civilization is scaterd thoughtout the books of the bilbe. Most of it is codified in the poetic language of the Bible Read it! it's an interesting article. Undertanding only strengthens me I do not look upon these as "conspiracies" only a new angle on the meaning of scripture, and that's what it's about!...and no you have not offended me in any way. I wish i could articulte this "Theory" a bit better , but may brain morges will not allow me! ;D I hate the word "Conspiracy theory" as much as Doctors hate the "M" (MORGELLONS) being mentoined... To many doctor's morgellons is considered a Conspiracy! Try and convince them! Awake
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Post by morph on Oct 30, 2008 14:26:57 GMT -5
Wow, I am not gonna dig anymore holes, one o dem demond caracters be jumpin up otta de ground onto me. One thing I don't be likeing is some crazy demond on me, let him be on you. LOL, Simple as man is, the heavens are pretty and the dirt is well, hmmmmmmmm, dirty yeah thats it. Then also you see fire shooting up outta the volcano's and stuff. That be where doe's bad ones go!!!! Hey awake don't be scareing me like dat, holloween is just around the coner!!!
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Post by downunder on Oct 31, 2008 0:09:45 GMT -5
Hi awake ( wish i could articulte this "Theory" a bit better , but may brain morges will not allow me! )
Stargate's already done it in all the details you have put forward above - maybe you were watching that in your dreams??? It didn't convince me.
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Post by Awake on Oct 31, 2008 9:32:23 GMT -5
Well at lest i tried, You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. One thing i can be certain of thou and that's reaching the ones how do understand what i am saying and who have an open mind. what i am sayig here has implications that are happening right now, not in some eposide of stargate. Downunder!
I believe the makeing of movies is the other way around from what you might expect - it is not created in some one's imagination it has always existed in our anceint past. Ancient technologies from the time before Satans rebellon agianst the creator.
In our "modern" times knowledge and technologies like this is supressed and is re-branded as fiction. Any one who considers such "fiction" could have a basis in reality is doomed to failrue. This is because of the way sociaty is manipulated to ridicule anyone that makes that suggestion.
This is probably why morgellons has no wide spread support because people's mind's are already made up about what is real and what is not... Most people are under the impression if i don't see it when it can not exist.
What if the vail is lifted? and you could "see" what the world is really like?
In the near future you may realize wtih shock that you were worng. It's the same sort of shock you will get if doctor's admit morgellons is REAL. That will be the day!
I know l've moved away form bible scripture onto ancient knowledge, but it's kind of a natural progression.
Awake
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