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Post by thinker on Sept 7, 2006 11:23:36 GMT -5
My beloved standard poodle is really sick. After making the cotton connection (Cliff, you're my hero), I began cleaning and looking for sources of infestation.
My dog had a blanket, toys (stuffed animals) and a dog bed that had fibers growing aggressively from them. I discarded everything and continued the process. That was probably 2 months ago.
I took her to vet yesterday, along with a CD containing articles, links and the CNN and Prime Time segments on Morgs. I focused on the Lymes connection when I spoke to him. He didn't seem too interested but said he'd look at the disk. His assistant seemed quite interested, however.
Her CBC test came back with normal organ function, but white blood cell count was off. He said it could be cancer or Lymes. I asked if he'd viewed the disk. He hadn't.
I've been through canine cancer 3 times (3 diff types of disease) and the symptoms presented by my dog do not look like my other 3 beloved pets of the past.
I won't let him do x-rays yet, for several reasons. But I am requesting a Tick panel be done, and urinalysis.
Her symptoms: chasing invisible bugs on her body, biting at her feet (mainly 1 foot) ferociously, listlessness, dull-looking eyes, she appears to have chronic fatigue, and now is not eating. I don't think she actually sleeps much, either.
I will post the new test results when I get them. I am curious if the same bacteria (?) - is it borellis that is a common denominator between morgs and lymes? - shows up in her new testing.
I do not think the animals "catch" this condition from us. I think it is in the cotton fiber that we are being bombarded with in all kinds of products.
Does anyone have any comments that might help her? I've worked with herbs for years, and will probably start that route, depending on what the tests say today. Of course, my vet is leaving town for a week, which leaves me to my own devices, anyway.
Thank you so very much.
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Post by sarahconnor on Sept 7, 2006 17:38:14 GMT -5
Hi Thinker - I am so so sorry to hear about your dog. The only thing I can think of at this time is a product called "Feliway" (not sure if spelled correct). It comes in a spray bottle or you can purchase in a diffuser and plug it in a power socket.
This product produces a pheromone that makes animals feel good and happy.
I had to use the plug in diffuser for my cat for quite some time. She was reallly distressed when I was so very ill and it really helped her. Maybe ask your vet, or perhaps google search on these types of products.
I hope this is of some help to you and your dog.
Take care please. xx
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Post by thinker on Sept 12, 2006 12:47:18 GMT -5
Thank you for your suggestion, Sarah. I have an update.
This has been a rough week. Tues - took my dog to vet #1. CBC results back on Weds. - white blood cell problem. Thurs - took dog back for Tick panel. Vet #1 was leaving town for a week, a temp vet would call me on Sat with results. Sat - (temp) vet #2 called to say tick tests were negative. Well, that blew my theory. Well, OK. Maybe she doesn't have Morgs. He started talking about boarding her, doing other tests, etc., and my intuition took over. I said no because I didn't know him, and didn't think anything would really be done between Sat and Mon, and I thought it better to keep her.
I contacted my beloved holistic vet, now in another state. We worked on a regimen for the weekend. By then, my dog hadn't really eaten since Weds. night. We made it through the weekend.
Mon - I took her to vet #3, someone I'd met years prior. Exhausted, I relayed the week's history, and he said it sounded like Lymes and questioned the tick panel results.
I left my dog for IV nourishment. I had a good feeling about this vet. He called after getting the records and speaking with vet #2.
He explained the test results were incorrectly interpreted by vet #2 - my dog had actually tested POSITIVE for Lymes.
She stayed in the hospital last night, and there's not much change today. He will determine later today whether I can bring her home. He is giving her doxycycline. I have burned a CD full of Morgs info and will take it to him today.
I am so glad I followed my intuition - I still think she's got Morgs. I've never seen a tick on her, or on any pet, in the many years I've lived here. Thank God I took her to vet #3.
So far, anyone I've tried to tell about Morgs appears to visibly "tune out" the minute I mention the "fiber growing" symptom. At that point, their minds seem to take leave, probably thinking about how crazy I must be.
This must change before we can get any help for ourselves or our loved ones, and I'm not putting much hope in the CDC.
I've got a couple of cartoons in mind, re: Morgs. When I have the time, I'll develop the graphics and send to Cliff. With his permission and assistance, maybe he can put them online so they can be downloaded, printed and ironed onto t-shirts. It'll take a while to get it done, so bear with me.
I think right now, awareness is our best way to get help.
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Post by bc on Sept 12, 2006 18:12:21 GMT -5
Sorry to hear about your dog . My dog just got back from the vet today she allways at the vet at least once a month . She on trimeth- sulfa today my dog been on ever thing . my dog has a sore under her eye that will not heal and now she has one on her gum now they want to pull one of her teeth . My vet is wonderful look at my dog under black light . They think she had a little stroke about a month ago . My dog is hangen in there . We give her a bath in emzyme clearner with peppermint . my vet said to give are dog acidophilus . take care god loves us hope your dog get better
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Post by thinker on Sept 12, 2006 18:27:06 GMT -5
Thank you very much, bc. I have been using acidophilus, too. She responds well to it.
Here is this afternoon's update:
Got my dog out of the hospital, but she's not really better. He left the IV-thing in her leg, in case she returns.
Still, no one has gotten her to eat. She is hydrated - looks a little better. She drank a lot when she got home. I cooked oatmeal - gave 4 spoons and an acidophilus pill, and she drank again.
I asked for a skin scraping from the area/lesion on her paw that she was so obsessed with - to test for parasites - any parasites, and the vet said the lab never heard of Morgs and he is certain she has Lymes, and he's treating it as Lymes.
His assistant said the lab told her that Morgs was a "syndrome" (a/k/a not to be taken seriously). (Oh yeah, they think I'm crazy.) I said, "No one heard of HIV before, either." I don't think they like me much now. :-(
I got doxycycline tablets and I asked if I should counterbalance it with acidophilus. He looked a little surprised, like he'd never thought about it and said it would be a good idea.
How can he be certain about anything if he hasn't read one word about Morgs yet and not even heard of it till I showed up on his doorstep? I'm not trying to do his job, but isn't a doctor supposed to check out all possibilities? Did the job description change? Now, they just treat symptoms and send you home with meds that may help or may hurt - it's the luck of the draw.
What has happened to people?
No one has curiosity or passion or anything anymore. They're like a bunch of robots walking around.
This is like a really, really bad dream, but I'm not waking up.
Thanks for the good wishes and advice.
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Post by thinker on Sept 12, 2006 18:31:46 GMT -5
In the above message, I typed 4 spoons (a piece of silverware), and it came up "sthingys." I saw this had happened to someone else, too. Sorry - I copied and pasted it, and I am looking at exactly what I typed. Something's wrong here.
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Post by joyfullee on Sept 12, 2006 22:38:38 GMT -5
So far, according to the count I have, this thread has been read 319 times. Only Aussie, Thinker, sarahconner, bc and myself have written. What's going on? If you silent ones out there are allowing Dr.s to define your reality, intimidate or convince you of delusions, keep this in mind: INSANITY is when you allow others to define your reality. I've had dermatologists looked at the sick skin and give me a psyche diagnosis. Come on...who's deluded? Since when did their speciality change from skin to emotional disorders? Evidently since I've gone crazy. And who would go to a mechanic for brain surgery? Okay, I'm off the soapbox for now. Here's my experience to the brave questions: #1. My laptop clicks alot more than usual. I've assumed it was blocking more pop up ads? The TV has turned on twice when I was near it??? Haven't mentioned that one to ANYBODY Really laughing now... #2. I'm an outdoor person, tan every summer until the fiber disease. Now, I've become so badly overheated AFTER returning indoors that I strip off the clothing and either take a cool shower or if too weak, lay down on the bed sans clothing (and it's not a pretty sight.) until temp returns to normal. Then there's the leisons that follow...so many. It took only a few of these incidences to realize summer is just one more enjoyment that has been robbed. (I missed alot of boating this summer. Actually exercise, also. No more metabolism elevation.) I won't take the time to list all the losses. Suffice it to say that this disease has taken over my life; and yes, I do get a little testy at times, but it IS NOT Bipolar! (I know.) And the day I allow any dermatologist (I don't think I will cap their title anymore.) to diagnose a mental disease is the day I go to the mechanic for surgery. I believe in Karma and some will KNOW one day. Perhaps personal experience? Later.
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Post by aussie on Sept 12, 2006 23:48:01 GMT -5
Oh, Thinker....sorry, but I laughing that you had the same trouble posting "spoon" as I did. So frustrating. The only thing I can say to anyone reading it is, "he was born with a silver ..... in his mouth", and the missing word in the saying, is the one we attempt to post.
About your poor doggy....was wondering if you'd try colloidal silver? Reason is, a friend of mine also had a very sick dog, at death's door, as a matter of fact. She had repeated visits to the vet who could do nothing and no real diagnosis, so took him home to die. In desperation she gave him colloidal silver as she had been taking it herself, and after a few days he showed marked signs of improvement(i.e. he could actually move), by about two weeks later he was a new dog and never looked back.
I mention this, because earlier in one of the other threads(rba[guest] Jul 30 Language of Morgellons-Think Beyond the Box), rba said they had done study using 12 drops x 3 times a day and the 6 test subjects had their lesions healed. He was writing to Cliff. I thought he was talking about colloidal silver from something that was posted elsewhere, but I imagine Cliff would know.And if not silver, what were they? If that is the case, I imagine you would need some of the stronger stuff that is available. Best of luck with it.
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Post by aussie on Sept 13, 2006 0:32:17 GMT -5
Yes, Joyfullee, you're saying what I'm thinking, too. Good on you. Where is everybody?
I just love what you said, " INSANITY is when you allow others to define your reality". YES!
Before I did the tea tree thing I had the hot feelings, you describe, too. Could go into a comatose sleep at the drop of a hat. Not now though. And, yes, I do know about Dr Wymore.
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Post by aussie on Sept 13, 2006 0:49:27 GMT -5
That's funny, Thinker....the post I was trying to recall re the colloidal silver, was the one on the Welcome page by russellbgood about the Silverdyne that you replied to at the time.
I know...one can just get an overdose of advice. (But it might work??)
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Post by thinker on Sept 15, 2006 16:27:39 GMT -5
Joyfulee and Aussie - Thanks both for your responses!
First, I had considered colloidal silver, but decided against it for now, but haven't ruled it out.
Second, re: heating.
I have a little dog, too, who's 17 yrs old. This summer I had already noticed heat radiating from the ground like no time before. It's like standing in - or on - a furnace. I don't know how the plants are tolerating it.
When I picked him up to bring him in the other day, I noticed his feet and 3" of leg were really, really hot. And the day's temp was cooler than it has been for months.
Since the chem plane traffic has been so heavy this year, I don't even like my pets to be out anymore - just enough to get some sun and exercise
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Post by thinker on Sept 15, 2006 16:31:55 GMT -5
Friday's dog update:
She's much better...eating, drinking and eliminating almost normally. She'll be on doxycycline for 2 weeks, although I really dislike using antibios.
One glitch to the story: This isn't necessarily Lyme, as stated by vet #1, returning from his absence.
I will probably pursue a further test to see if we can figure this out after she gets better. Her symptoms are a little questionable and the test is not definitive. The saga continues.
Thank you all for your kindness and support.
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Post by Joyfullee on Sept 15, 2006 22:33:10 GMT -5
Glad to hear it Thinker...If your doggie has anything resembling the Fiber Disease, s/he may need more than 2 wks of Doxycycline. Dr. Harvey, the Houston Doctor (Retired from NASA) has been treating humans with a regimen of 4 months of Doxy combined with 4 months of Ivermectin. FYI: Ivermectin is usually for animals. The idea behind the antibios is to give the Immune System an opportunity to recover. That rationale helps me to take and/or administer them. Maybe that helps you?
I know there are side affects and probably many we don't know about, but with this horrific disorder, any hope and comfort is better than none. I don't know if your dog shakes his/her head or scratches ears often? Mine did; and only when I contracted the biting, moving life forms in my own ears, did I understand the degree of suffering. Movement, biting and 'popping' sounds as they penetrate the ear's tender skin, makes even sleep restless. And you know what happens to our emotional stability when our REM sleep is disturbed. Probably the same for pets. There will probably be behavioral changes in addition to the listless/no appetite, etc.
All this to say that by trial and error, I learned the best thing to stop all the inner ear noise and biting was to put a small amount of Neosporin/petroleum jelly on my finger, salt it (Sea Salt), and then gently place it in the ear. I have no idea if there are possible side effects? After about a month of misery, I didn't care if there were...These animal/plant forms do NOT like a salty environment and as long as I salt my ears at the first signal of movement, it temporary ends it quickly. Ah! A moment of relief.
Also, there seems to be unknown properities in Doxepin (prescription drug)that helps reduce itching...don't know if Dogs can safely take it...usually they can tolerate what we do, only in lesser amounts. But worth checking out with Vet.
Wish so much our little ones (children and pets) who depend on us for safekeeping and comfort, wouldn't have to suffer this malady. However, you are a responsible and supportive caretaker, which is more than many have. Lucky Dog.
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Post by bc on Sept 16, 2006 8:41:08 GMT -5
I am glad to hear your dog is better . MY dog wanted to play ball last night AND she is 10 year old . THEY have her on trimeth-sulfa 960 mg but we allso been giving her enzyme , garlic, orengano oil and multi omega flax, borage, fish , we gave her silver that didnt seem to help her . but we took silver are self for a year and it seem to help us . take care god loves us
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Post by thinker on Sept 16, 2006 9:56:45 GMT -5
Bless you, BC, for caring so much to respond again and for such valuable info. I'm very glad your dog is so spunky again. Mine is still getting better, and she's mighty perky. I was wondering about oregano oil, because that's what I'm taking, and I think it's the wild oregano oil and allicin (a garlic component) that have made the difference for me. I think it was Cliff that said we're just feeding the beasts with our herbs, but I disagree, re: these two items. Oregano oil and allicin are two of the strongest antibiotics, but they're not manmade. I have to take probiotics to balance the anti's. I'm going to stick with the doxycycline and acidophilus until they run out, then I'll begin the natural treatment, if my holistic vet in WA agrees. The multi omega flax sounds good, too. If anyone is interested in allicin, you should read about it before taking. But please read what med authorities in other countries say, not just in this one, because they differ. It is obtained at the moment the garlic is crushed - only. You cannot ingest allicin through regular garlic capsules. I have found very excellent product through the 3NEWYOU company (1-800-3NEWYOU, . They call the allicin "garlicillin" and their oregano is not domestic - it is wild, and it makes a difference. I'm staying away from any metals right now, since I've been aware of chemplanes for several years now and feel like we're being bombarded with metals already. And BC, I realized my dog is 10, too. She was a rescue dog and while going through paperwork, I found a note I'd written about her birthday. She is still much like a puppy (or was) and it's hard to believe she's the equivalent of 70 yrs! Thank you so very much!
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Post by thinker on Sept 16, 2006 10:16:27 GMT -5
Hi, Joyfulee! Your words were so helpful. There is no way to escape the ears ringing and beeping. In '02, during a physical, I asked dr. about this and she said I probably had wax in my ear and told me to get an ear syringe. SHE DIDN'T EVEN LOOK.
I've been to multiple dermatologists in the past few years, for hair loss and weird pimples (now I know the pimples are fiber-filled), and all I would get was Retin A and Rogaine. THEY DIDN'T EVEN LOOK. What in the heck has happened to our med system?
So, I was so grateful to hear about your remedy. I'll start today!!
I'm not at all happy about synthetic drugs, including anti-bi's, but I'm doing what the vet says for now. When the 2 wks' meds are gone, I'll probably have a Western Blot test done on her, which is supposed to show for sure whether it's Lyme or not.
Vet #1 isn't quite sure this is Lyme. Vet #3 called it Lyme, even after I told him the tick panel came back negative. Here's how it shakes out:
A positive Lyme reading is 1-to-12. My dog's was 1-to-100 which supposedly indicates she had some exposure to Lyme.
This is a spoiled rotten "inside" dog. Never seen a tick in the yard or on a pet. If she had a tick, she is so fastidious, she would have immediately removed it and spit it out. My awesome ceramic tile would have revealed anything like that to me - not hard to see at all.
So, maybe she's been exposed to Lyme, but it's a stretch to figure out how.
I have had so many misdiagnoses from med dr's in my life that I have learned that not only do you have to educate yourself before seeing a doc, you have to stay on top of them, asking questions and then questionning the answers.
The docs even literally killed my husband in E.R. - too many people with iodine syringes - and one after another gave him injections until he died fro iodine. They revived him, but he's suffered the effects. He also has a huge, long needle free-floating in his body from a previous surgery, which cannot be removed because it is too dangerous to do.
It's no wonder I went holistic years ago. God knows best, as far as I'm concerned. Thank you again. I'm pulling the sea salt as soon as I go offline!!! Bless you!!!!!
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Post by bc on Oct 2, 2006 19:01:08 GMT -5
thinker how is your dog ? WE went on a vac and are dog was so happy and full of life . take care hope your dog is well god loves us
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Post by thinker on Oct 2, 2006 19:12:11 GMT -5
Oh, bc, thank you so much for asking. I was going to post once her anti-bios were done, but she's doing very fine, thank you.
I'm really glad you got to take your dog out of the area for a while and that it was so happy. Good for you!!! Good for you!!!
The only thing I notice is still a slight neuro thing - misstepping sometimes, a little trouble jumping up on things.
The first vet I went to is the one I'm going back to. He took the CD about Morgs that I made for him and he used it. He's open to new ideas and is really hesitant to say the dog has Lyme, although the borella is there.
I'll post again once I have taken her to see him again. Bless you and your family and pets.
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 3, 2006 10:55:36 GMT -5
Thinker
So wonderful to hear......funny you mentioned the trouble with jumping up on things.....my AnnaBelle has the same trouble at times.....and she knows when she can't get up on the couch and snuggle with her daddy......she just won't even try.....and she is like pigeon toed at times.....
This disease really gets under my skin (LOL) and at times it is no wonder we all get depressed....watching all our family members suffering........I have a huge heart for animals and I think that bothers me the most....so SAD....
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Post by thinker on Oct 3, 2006 12:23:42 GMT -5
Ditto, sickandtired, Ditto for me, too. It's the children and the animals I have the heart for because they're innocent and helpless.
I adore your humor.
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Post by thinker on Oct 25, 2006 12:24:38 GMT -5
Thank you for everyone's concern about my dog.
It has been several weeks since the doxy was stopped and so far, she appears to be just fine.
I think she has a slight neuro thing - misstepping - but it happens so fast I haven't been able to confirm that's what it is.
God bless all of the creatures in this world.
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Post by whiterose on Oct 25, 2006 14:19:13 GMT -5
Hi all,
My nutszhu just makes this soft woof now when he wants to go down the stairs. He has been really out of sorts the last few days. I gave him a suppository which totally insulted his dignity and then took him out, nothing. After about 20 minutes he wanted out again and I watched from the window. he did his job, he is feeling much better now.
I do have a sample that on one end looks like his hair and on the other was what he pulled out with his teeth.
My daughter had an emotional time lately and then she got diarrhea. I'm holding my breath on this one.
This is the hardest part to watch the children and the animals ill with this breaks your heart. It is when I really get mad and dig my heels in and say I will help find the answer. Always it has been my children that has kept me going.
Imagine if we just gave in and let those that are behind this slide, I don't think that is what God would want. It gives me the chills.
Blessings to all those in this search for the truth.
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Post by thinker on Oct 25, 2006 16:31:04 GMT -5
I hope everyone considers the following:
Change your pet water frequently, washing bowl thoroughly.
Do not "free-feed" by leaving food out and exposed all day.
BTW - I'd noticed all summer - no ladybugs, no green lace wings, no frogs or toads and only a couple of geckos.
We have a mutated sparrow living in backyard - he has a white head. He's been around at least 4 years and seems undaunted by anything.
We're seeing other mutated birds, too.
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Post by bc on Oct 25, 2006 18:16:37 GMT -5
We put a little pomergrante in are dogs water dish . take care god loves us
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Post by thinker on Oct 25, 2006 20:28:20 GMT -5
bd -
Can you tell me what the pomegranate is for? That's interesting. Thanks!!
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Post by bc on Oct 29, 2006 17:10:56 GMT -5
supports antioxidant health take care god loves us
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Post by whiterose on Oct 30, 2006 19:38:32 GMT -5
Today my nutszu yelped in pain, when I picked him up, I could feel a strange bump that was gone in seconds. He has done this many times just rarely in front of my husband. After he yelped, my husband was looking on the floor, like he stepped on something. He has all the signs of Morgellons. One day he was chewing at himself and pulled on something. I was standing right there and just like Cliff said, there it was a bug on one end and fur on the other.
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 31, 2006 13:43:46 GMT -5
I have this wonderful book called the Holistic Guide for a Healthy Dog.....has great advise for a dog suffering ill health I would like to share....
Parasites cause zinc depletion which in turn affects the ability to absorb food.....Zinc depletion also causes, premature aging, dawrfism, cataracts, epilepsy, crohn's disease, ulcerative colitis, learning disabilities, infections and male infertility....good sources of zinc for your dog included seeds from sunflowers or pumpkins tuan fish peanuts whole grains and trace amounts in peas, carrots, beets and cabbage
Zinc helps the liver to detoxify poisons, supports the immune system and regulates white blood cells.....aids in acid/alkaline balance and cataracts have been helped using zinc.....
NOTE: There is the age old saying that seems to prevail that of a little of something is good then a lot must be better....this is WRONG when using mineral supplements....too much of something creates as many problems as too little.....
PET BED SPRAY
Here is a essential oil mix used to spray your pets bedding and toys helpfull to treat bacteria and viruses lurking there
2 1/2 cups water 6 drops of Hyssop 6 drops of eucalyptus
place in spritz bottle and shake well before using
PARASITE CLEANSING BRUSH
find an old towel and cut the towel to fit over your metal toothed grooming brush and set the towel into the brush teeth until about 1 inch above the base
Mix together in bowl
warm water just enough to rinse your brush and towel with maybe 2 cups at the most 4 drops of Cedarwood or Pine oil
Soak brush with attached towel in mixture.....during brushing serveral rinses of the towel and brush in bowl of mix is necessary
This will disinfect your dog, condition the coat and collect parasites and eggs in the towel and brush which is why several rinses are needed....Your pet will smell fresh too....
IF your dog is suffering seriously from lease and parasites apply
4 drops Cedarwood OR 4 drops Lavendar
directly to towel covering brush, rub material together to disperse oil before putting on the bursh.....have a warm water rinse mixed as above to rinse your towel and brush as needed...
THE SICK DOG
If dogs are sick for any length of time and have not eaten, a meal of honey and yogurt can do wonders to restore their appetites. It is especially important for those dogs that have weak digestive systems.....Honey contains the enzymes, amylase and invertase which aid digestion and is not irrating to the lining of the digestive tract, easily and rapidly assumilated and quicly furnishes the demand of energy and helps with recoperation from any stressful event...a gentle laxative effect and acts as a natural sedative to calm the body....
ITCHING SKIN
Make a ratio of 1 to 1 of water and apple cider vinegar and put in a spray bottle...and spray onto the coat and let dry...should see less itchy hot spots
using the same ratio of 1 to 1 water and apple cider vinegar and a couple of drops once a week in each ear during weekly grooming will avoid ear infections.....A COUPLE OF DROPS.....
Apple cider vinegar can also be used internally for dogs eyes that run with a clear watery discharge, or nose runs, or when our dog is coughing a liquid kind of cough.... a couple of tablespoons in their food (this is for a 50 pound dog so adjust acordingly) once a day and you should see a remarkable difference very quickly.....we give our dogs several drops of apple cider vinegar every day in their food.....again.....moderation is the best policy for the results you are looking for....
If I read any more good advice I will post again
SickandTired
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Post by Jrsy Grl on Oct 31, 2006 21:43:35 GMT -5
Sick, I was passing thru and saw your post...Thank you for the wonderful/helpful info! Jrsy Grl
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Post by Jrsy Grl on Oct 31, 2006 22:00:55 GMT -5
Joy, Amen! My primary doc has it in her head that my physical symptoms are psych related, also. I've about had it w/conventional medicine. You'll get a kick out of her last genius statement: She told my husband & I that I'm not eating because I'm angry at my husband!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, guess my anger made 50 lbs. disappear in 6 months, too! Since when did GP's become shrinks, anyway?!! Just had to post a reply to you cause, yeah I'm pissed, frustrated & down...who wouldn't be if they lost all their hair, eyebrows & eyelashes and have scarred up skin so I can't enjoy our boat and summer condo? I, also, used to LOVE the sun, but have the same symptoms you mentioned in the summer. Take care of yourself Hugs, Jrsy
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