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Post by debbie on Nov 23, 2006 11:05:33 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that the dust in their home acts as if it’s alive. It reproduces. For a few years now I have been unable to get rid of it with air cleaners, swifter, anything. Dust and it’s back like a magnet. I recently broke out in 7 Morgellons sores and with no help from doctors so I went to the internet. I started using borax in water on everything. I found that it immediately repelled the dust and started killing what ever this is on the surface. I found hard black specks in the dryer lint, and dust films in the washer. Now when we wipe furniture, tables, anything with borax/water the dust doesn’t return. I use to be able to brush tissue across my arm and get microscopic fibers, but only get a few black specks now. I really believe the key to this is to eradicate it from all of the clothing and household surfaces with borax and water.
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 23, 2006 19:00:33 GMT -5
I had tried Borax in laundry about a year ago but I probably didn't try long enough. I have since moved to an almost new home and the dust is horrific. I will probably try this. I vaccum every day and nothing helps. Also my heppa filter is so clogged I have to clean it every day. getting ready to replace it. Can you tell me more about mint wash, peroxide and aloe combination?
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Post by debbie on Nov 23, 2006 22:19:50 GMT -5
Just using peroxide on the sore and then applying aloe. Washing with herbal soft soaps that have mint, that I picked up at the health food store. I'm not sure if any of this is helping except the borax.
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 23, 2006 22:28:30 GMT -5
I have used a little of everything for the sores and they will work one time, to help but not heal, and then they may not the next. Have you tried Tea Tree Oil?
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 23, 2006 22:49:12 GMT -5
The only time that the sores completely healed up was after I was treated for Lyme's for a short period until the results came back negative and they decided I was Psychotic. I was given Levaquin 750mg 1Xday and permethrin lotion. They completely cleared up for about a month. After about a month they slowly started to reappear. Then when no medical Dr would treat me, my psychiatrist prescribed the Levequin again. He and my therapist are the only 2 who believed me until the article by Billy Koch. I now have a Dermatologist who treated me and again they cleared up and are now back. My therapist who has advanced Lyme's disease is good friends with a lady who just got out of Nursing school. This nurse saw the special on Primetime and called my therapist to tell her she knew what was wrong with her patient (me). She has agreed to start treating me but we are being very careful with the diagnosis for fear that the Doctor she is with will not want to treat me. My therapist is also seeing an acupuncturist. She asked him if he had ever heard of Morgellon's and he said yes. She is now referring me to him. She also has suggested I remove wheat, gluten and sugar from my diet. That will be hard to do.
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Post by whiterose on Nov 24, 2006 0:15:31 GMT -5
Debbie there is a big warning up on the colloidal silver, my understanding is that it actually pulls the fibers together and makes them stronger. I'd go for the tea tree oil and take the sugar out of your diet. Get on a good immune booster also and some B-12. It is your body, I just thought I should warn you. I'm no doctor, just a person who has lived with this for a very long time, over 20 years and I read a lot.
Be careful whiterose
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Post by sarahconnor on Nov 24, 2006 2:10:41 GMT -5
Hi Debbie, I will second Whiterose on the colloidal silver, becareful the liver stores it. Stay as natural as ya can, enjoy fruit and veg, and good water, basically a good balanced diet.
Remember people out there are trying to make lots and lots of money out of people like you and I, don't give them the satisfaction ok? I care about people, I don't want you to hurt yourself, and I am not a doctor either, just a person full of fibers!!
As for Hydrogen peroxide, well I have heard this buzzing about the internet for 2 years now, and to be honest I am scared to death to go near it, I just don't know what to believe. And of course if you try and bring up the subject of hydrogen peroxide with folks around you, they really think ya nuts then ie. "What!! ya thinkin of bathing in poison"!! That was one response when I asked someone about hydrogen peroxide.
Anyway you do what you feel is best for you, just becareful, and take care. Ask questions of the people hear, folks like whiterose, thinker, aussie, and sickandtired will give ya a straight up answer.
xx
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Post by sarahconnor on Nov 24, 2006 2:13:43 GMT -5
Oh yeah Borax - I have used it for as long as I can remember, and I am still drowning in fibers. I wish I could vacum everyday, but my symptoms just don't allow this. I used to live on the end of my vacum cleaner, I loved to the housework, I wish I was like that now.
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Post by sarahconnor on Nov 24, 2006 2:19:10 GMT -5
Debbie - just a quick question, the aloe you are taking - is this the aleo vera you can drink??
My doctor told me recently to take this for irritable bowel, I have been. I did used to drink the aloe before I got really sick, but then you know my delusions came on thick and strong and I lost the plot!!!!
For those who don't know about the aloe vera juice, you can buy it at your chemist in a bottle and you drink 20 to 40ml a day. Taste yuk, but ya get used to it.
Is the aloe vera working for my irritable bowel?? I just don't know!!!
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Post by aussie on Nov 24, 2006 4:16:03 GMT -5
Hello, OHappyday. I hope you are indeed having a happy day.
About the tea tree oil......it was only when I used it internally, under supervision, that the fibres ceased to grow. I finished the treatment 4 months ago and I have not seen any fibres since. If it feels right for you, go and talk to your natural practioner about it. Please do not self medicate, as this can be a toxic subtance if used inappropriately. See my posts in "Simple Natural Cure" from September.
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 24, 2006 17:59:27 GMT -5
Hi aussie,
Thank you so much for the info. About the tea tree oil did the sores dissappear as well? I use to be on mega herbs before I had this and I do believe Ezekiel 47:12 "...Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing." I have the name of a Dr turned natural practitioner who has been recommended by a friend that I am planning on calling. He is talked about in Suzanne Sommers newest book. Haven't read it yet though.
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Post by aussie on Nov 24, 2006 20:19:25 GMT -5
Hi Ohappyday,
When the fibres stopped appearing, the itchiness ceased. You know how when you remove the fibres from a lesion with tweezers, you get a whole new crop of smaller lesions surrounding the first one? Well, that all stopped. Of course it took a few weeks for the original lesions to heal, without the hard callous forming over the top of them. I was still getting a few tiny lesions but no fibres. My naturopath said I needed to take some Molybdenum(which is in a multi B formulation), the colloidal minerals and acidopholus for three months.
I hope this information helps you. You have to remember that I consider myself a mild case, even though I have other health issues such as a compromised immune system, when I compare how many other people are afflicted in the extreme. Also, my practitioner said in my case, the organism had not crossed the brain blood barrier.
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 24, 2006 21:54:36 GMT -5
Hi Aussie,
You have inspired me enough to call the Homeopathic Dr on Monday as well as the acupuncturist. I have taken acidopholus before and actually have some. But let me ask you this, how do you know when you cross the brain blood barrier? Also, from my sores comes the fibers as well as the stuff that feels like sand and I've noticed that this spreads the sores around it. I thought it was the granules that was causing the sores. I have been researching for 4 years and had questioned Morgellons several times. It was when I read the article about Billy Koch that it all came together.
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Post by aussie on Nov 24, 2006 23:48:30 GMT -5
Hello again, Ohappyday. This gets very complicated as you know, and the best I can advise you to do is to read Cliff's informative posts on the mechanism of this thing, as he explains it in a very succint way, better than I could. And also the information that Dr Hildy and Dr K have given us recently.
I only know how my own practitioner determines whether it has crossed the blood brain barrier and that may not be how other practitioners would do it. It is not invasive. Depends on their training modality I guess.
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Post by whiterose on Nov 24, 2006 23:49:04 GMT -5
Refresh my memory folks, something to the effect of this thing traveling along ------------ to get to the brain. What I got out of it was there was not a blood brain barrier with this organism. I believe this was on one of Hildy's discussions, my apologies, can someone help me out?
whiterose
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Post by Admin on Nov 25, 2006 0:04:13 GMT -5
Hi ! Don't remember anything Hildy said about blood-brain barrier......
I do know that it has been said that bloodwork comes up fairly normal - However, I am sure they're not looking at blood on a Nano level - We will be doing that soon!
Blessings to all.....Sho
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Post by thinker on Nov 25, 2006 2:25:58 GMT -5
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Post by john on Nov 25, 2006 3:32:41 GMT -5
deb,
a woman after my own heart ! :-)
yes, i am watching the dust fly around my sharper image air cleaner and am still frustrated...
try as we must, i am starting to think *we* all need to get together and make the best of the rest of our time in this world.
john
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Post by john on Nov 25, 2006 3:42:08 GMT -5
reading some more...
this is a cool thread.
i woke up with nine small red/brown sores on my right palm.
sea salt and vitamin C seem to be helping.
half a teaspoon of salt in water and 3000 mg C every 6 hours is keeping me alive...
john
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Post by thinker on Nov 25, 2006 3:56:37 GMT -5
Hey John! Good to see you!!
I was wondering. Is it the Ionic Breeze air machine?
Does the ionization bother you? Do you ever smell a weird kind of electrical burning smell?
Does it have one of those extra pieces mounted on it? I can't remember what they're called, but they're relatively new to the unit.
( Sharper Image didn't used to mfg them with the extra piece which can be bought separately and retrofitted. )
Thanks!!
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Post by anirishvoice on Nov 28, 2006 16:30:54 GMT -5
Please please spread this message: use ENZYME CLEANERS totally natural and so safe you can use them in the bath and spray on your skin. They break down protein and this thing is made of protein. I have almost cleared this thing from my house, I have 2 very young children I was desperately worried about, just beginning to feel safer. How to clear it pasted below & thanks to Michelle from a site I cannot remember. I believe this thing is a form of COLLEMBOLA, often associated with horses and those working with them. A type of soil yeast-cum-insect parasite. Ants use static electricity somehow, they are also 'fungus factories' and may harness these things naturally? The tiny black phase of this creature definitely thrives on static and works it's way into fibres, so it's not the fibre that's alive. Spray fibres with the ENZYME CLEANER... Spray everything.
HOPE! I found the message below from a woman who has been free for 3 years. I am almost clear after months of despair... USE AN ENZYME CLEANER LIKE KLEEN FREE THIS WILL CLEAR UP THE PROBLEM as long as you keep spraying and vaccuming. Also very important to do something about your clothes dryer - replace the vent pipe and pour something like borax into the vent in the machine. Better still dump it and buy a condenser dryer so you can wash all lint and eggs (like tiny pieces of glitter) out of it after every use. Clean every single thing in your house and watch out for wood, paper, rubber, spray every crevice, inside cupboards, mattresses, etc. Also using FUMERS as if treating a very bad bed bug problem is a help in controlling this. Useful for the car which I couldn't clean regularly but you can spray it with the enzyme cleaner. Wash clothes regularly after the problem abates and keep spraying, spraying, spraying and wet dusting inside clothes storage areas.
Here's the message that saved my sanity: I don't know if this will work for everyone, but it worked for me. I was going NUTS with Morgellon's about 2-3 years ago, to the point where I wanted to kill myself. I had ALL of the symptoms everyone describes... the lesions with fibers, specks, etc.... I went to every doctor, dermatologist, etc. and nearly killed myself with their toxic treatments. I was bathing 2-3 x a day and washing everything in my house - every day- to no avail.
Finally I came across something that seems to have helped....
1. I completely cleaned my house, and then I bought a liquid enzyme treatment - they sell them on the internet or you can buy some such as "Nature's Miracle" in any pet supply store. I sprayed it all over my house, on my clothes, my bed, my pets, in my tub and sink etc.
I don't know if this actually killed the disease, but the enzymes kill eggs and it certainly stopped whatever it is from reproducing and it began to go away.
2. I took Digestive Enzymes orally to help with internal cleansing.
3. I took Co-Q 10 and L-Lysine to help strengthen my immune system and skin.
4. I took an anti-itching medicine (Benadryl works, too) just to keep from scratching, and possibly spreading or reinfecting.
5. I washed my clothes with Borax which also kills eggs, etc. (Don't use too much or it will shred your clothes!)
Finally, I began to experience relief. Thank God!!! Please post this at the top of your site so that other people can try it. Michele
Good luck all from Leona
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Post by 0happyday on Nov 29, 2006 2:57:56 GMT -5
Hi anirishvoice, Can you tell me more about where to get the enzyme cleaner? It seems like the more I clean the worse it gets. Also I believe the vacumm cleaner thing is not from being worn out but from the morgs. Every time I vacumm it is like a fine powder in my heppa filter. I have 5 vacumm cleaners and the Rainbow is gone, the new w/ heppa is making this whining noise and I clean it every time I vacuum (almost every day) The filter queen is about 25 years old and doesn't pick up as well as the others but seems to be doing better mechanically.
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Post by heyjewde on Dec 17, 2006 15:39:35 GMT -5
thx for the info on enzyme cleaners...i'll have to get borax again...used it for laundry but when the box was gone i didn't replace it or try it on anything else but the clothes. tea tree oil is very good but seems to be not as effective when used for prolonged periods...but then i find that happening with most things i use...peroxide is not to be feared and bathing in it is absolutely ok...i gargle with it....vinegar is real good too---internally.externally and all around the house...i keep some in a spray bottle and spray like airfreshener--but then i do the same w/a clorox and water solution. about the aloe--i know nothing about bottled or "commercialized" aloe as i live in az and the stuff grows like weeds around here(i feel blessed that i'm living here now as i've not been able to afford any medical attention for about 2 yrs now)and i must say that aloe is fantastic..as is baking soda and corn starch...and bananas. i too have pretty much converted to the paper towel route as i don't have the luxury of my own washer and dryer. when doing laundry i put everything through the dryer-both sides-inside and out of all clothing...gets most of the crap out of the clothes before hand. even clothing is becoming disposable with me...and to think i used to be such a clothes hound...only imelda marcos had me beat in the footware dept!!!ah.yes those were the days....
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Post by soreceress on Feb 17, 2007 0:57:46 GMT -5
I have had whatever this is for approximately 10 years now. I have been to all the doctors and have been treated like I'm delusional or the doctor will simply admit he/she doesn't know what it is. . I've tried so many treatments (OTC and prescribed), but what has worked best is the peppermint enzyme solution. My scalp is almost lesion free and I have also used it in my home and car. Diatomaceous earth has also proven beneficial. I use these two items on my person everyday, never wear the same clothes twice w/o washing (in Era, HOT water, and sometimes Borax), soak my comb and brush in the enzyme solution daily. It is exhauting but at least the condition is under control and my scalp is no longer burning and painful. I did notice that when I first applied the diluted enzyme certain areas of my skin would erupt, then discolor to red and then orangey-brown, then finally heal. Not all of my skin, just certain spots, like my upper chest, my wrist areas, the cheeks on my face. Places where I believe these things are lurking. They don't like the enzymes and want out. The skin discoloration is the oddest thing. The last dermatologist I went to told me I had nothing except scalp folliculitis and a birthmark on my scalp in the shape of a butterfly, as if I would know all about it. I wasn't born with a birthmark. I didn't tell her that however because she already thought I was nuts. Just recently I have noticed that this discolored area on my scalp that she told me about is flaking off and the scalp underneath is returning to its natural healthy shade of white. My hair is still super dry with lots of wiry and twisted knots (like Brillo) and I miss it feeling silky and smooth, as it did my entire life before this condition began. I believe I will have this condition forever and I am making the best of it and trying not to let it rule my life. The other thing is that I could only see these creatures if I combed my hair over the sink filled with water. They would fill the the surface (hundreds of them!) and I could see them in the circles of reflected light from the lamps above the sink. At one time there were so many the water would become thick with them. Now when I do the same thing, I will only see one or two and today I didn't see any. They are transparent and very tiny wormlike things, all shaped exactly the same, except some are larger than others. My ears used to be full of them and one night they invaded my nostrils. It was awful. Now I swab the inside of my ears and nose with the diluted enzyme cleaner and I can breathe again and no longer have ringing in my ears or the itch. My heart goes out to all who suffer from this malady. I don't know the etiology but I do know I am not inventing it. The sores and pain were very real. Someone mentioned an aroma and yes, when the sores would open a very distinct aroma would accompany the thin serous secretion that within seconds would thicken to a gluey viscosity and then harden. Not a normal bodily fluid to be sure. Also, I could have just stepped from a nice hot soapy shower and rub an alcohol-soaked cotton ball on my skin and the ball would turn brown. That is no longer the case. Try the enymes. I have been using the solution and earth since the beginning of October 2006. The solution is pricey, but you dilute it so a little goes a long way. The earth is very inexpensive and effective. Good luck and keep believing that someday the medical world will believe us. It will probably take a well-respected key opinion leader to come down with it and then it will suddenly become the disease du jour. I certainly hope so. Perhaps then we might hope for a cure. least of all recognition of our plight. Peace.
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Post by rlreedy on Feb 23, 2007 22:02:33 GMT -5
Hi everyone. My name is Rick and I am new on this site. Thank you to everyone that has put info here. It is great and so vary helpful. Hopfully I can add some help along the way. God Bless
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Post by mindy on Mar 6, 2007 2:01:03 GMT -5
I have tried the hydrogen peroxide and salt baths and they work the best I have ever tried!!!! I have had this four years and nothing worked then I came across this treatment step for morgellons patients and I have to tell you guys this works!!!! I use lactic acid cream after and it actually pulls the bugs out of my skin. It is not dust in your homes that is alive it is actually the fibers reproducing!!!! Look at your lamp shades !!! On top will be white and different colored threads!! I know! I have fibers in every nook and cranny of my home and I now have to get some eco-vie (the only stuff that works in the fibers) to clean the house. If you want relief please try the hydrogen peroxide/salt baths. They kill the bugs!!! You can literally see the bugs coming off in the bath. For more tips and help please feel free to email me. I really hope we can get the cdc to get their act togther. God Bless, Mindy Also anything with citric acid works in cleaning the fibers. I have the whole treatment steps if anyone wants them. They were created by a nurse who has had this for 10 years!!She regularly uses them on her daughter also!!
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Post by aligator on Mar 6, 2007 19:12:13 GMT -5
good to know mindy! I have a little one at home too
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Post by soreceress on Sept 9, 2007 20:41:29 GMT -5
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Post by ninaj on Jan 9, 2017 20:51:43 GMT -5
January, 2017... Ive find nothing works. So you make your own. I use a spray bottle, boil beets for the liquid, or parsley (its great), but way to messy. Mix the beet water w/ vinegar, powdered oxidetergent, and optional peroxide. It reduces greatly. You must understand that you cannot elliminate in one cleaning. Everythong is layered. Thats why it snowballs w/time. I professize that the thing, ths organismial breathing deadly thing we call morgellons, is morphing me. My skin is diamond pattern lizard like, my ears are morphing into Spock like form, the flying white fibers, simulating house dust, they stick to the layer alredy formed on the skin and then they evolve. To what is the question. Bathing in beet water w/vinegar & oxi helps tremendously. I use beets, parsley, vinegar, taro root, onions, yucca root. Anything. Its better to fement for months.
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Post by ninaj on Jan 9, 2017 21:03:23 GMT -5
MOST IMPORTANT IS CLEANING WASHCLOTHS & RAGS...MICROFIBER. these are a must have for morgellons ppl. Also the laundry soap ba ZOTE. Theres something in there they dont like. I use on body, in kitchen etc I mix in vinegar, beets, whatever. Just grap stuff and mix them (careful with the toxic chemicals).
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