I think this is something folks should definitely give a shot or shock. Especially those infected for under 10 years, once the M gets established, fighting it becomes more difficult, almost need a doctor on board now to do to much experimentation.
Post by sickandtired on Feb 3, 2007 11:47:46 GMT -5
Reading some of the testemonials it seems there have been a few Morgellons infected in the group......they speak of floaters in their eyes, rashes, skin tags, hard to heal sores, restless sleep patterns, and more.....
When they finally devise a test for Morgellons the nation will be shocked at the numbers infected.....IT WON"T BE A PRETTY PICTURE.....for the medical community is going to find out they have a lot to learn....
the teaching going on in our medical univeristies by closed minded professors has caused this epidemic called Morgellons.....and like the introduction stated.....
If you think that earning university degrees indicates discernment, personal integrity or even intelligence you may be in for a rude awakening.
In many cases university training is little more than institutionalized prejudice and parasitism, as anyone who's visited a MD for anything but injuries or reconstructive surgery knows. It really is time to revamp our educational systems in light of new, more powerful and liberating information.
ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH......time for a rude awakening out of the COMA the medical community lives in.....they are ALL part of this EPIDEMIC called Morgellons.....it is time for doctors to actually think again instead of sitting on their thrones writing harmful prescriptions...most of the time the side effects of the crap they prescribe are worse than the ailment with little or no healing taking place at all......
How many millions are infected???? shocking would be my answer....
TIME TO RATTLE SOME CAGES......the medical community will hang their heads in shame one day soon....
Post by sarahconnor on Feb 3, 2007 19:09:05 GMT -5
TIME TO RATTLE SOME CAGES......the medical community will hang their heads in shame one day soon....
I sure hope so.
I have hung my head in shame for far too many years now, it is so exhausting.
Because I have not been able to fully understand what has happened to my body with this illness, I tend to blame myself in the end. People around me tell me off for this. But I seem to think this is just human nature really. When no doctor can give you the time of day, or even a simple explanation for anything, whatelse can you do??
"has used zappers before for her Lyme disease. Not to many people are familiar with this type of therapy. My sick friend also incorporated this in his program. But he stopped after a while, for him the silver therapy was more effective."
I've been using a Terminator Zapper for the past year, but I'm not sure whether it has helped. For the first month, I had it in contact with my skin 24/7, or as much as possible. My 25+ year case of Morg had long been past the open sore stage, so long that I had forgotten the pain and suffering.
But I got a couple of live sores on my stomach, complete with the stinging & crawling -- and that smell. I had forgotten the smell. They did heal, but still, a year later, I'm getting sores with worms coming out on my stomach and waist.
Anyway, I've slept with the Zapper avery night this year, as part of an overall parasite removal effort. Somehow I think that frequency irritates them, although it could be a stimulant.
Caution, yes. I'm just starting to understand what has been happening in my body all these years. But if these critters and their fibers are effected by electromagnetism, inducing some confusion into their world could deter them.
There's also the possibility that I'm killing things that could be helpful in the fight.
Post by sickandtired on Feb 16, 2007 11:31:09 GMT -5
In your first post you mentioned the smell.......I have noticed this smell too and never mentioned it for it was too strange I thought....but here it goes....I have a smell too....
After peeling a flat worm/creature off a lesion and it bleeds at first I get this smell.....almost like metal smell like iron or aluminum something very distinct and over and over I get the same smell.....only when a worm/creature is removed and you bleed from where it was attached to you with those claws or whatever it is.....
and my blood.....have you noticed your blood is a strange color too.....almost black looking at first but when it gets on the paper towel it is radient red......a red my blood never had before.....flourescent red like.....really weird I must say....I have lived with this for so long you would think you would forget what normal blood feels and smells like and this is not normal that is for sure....
Anyone else with the smell or strange color of blood????
and yes I agree with you about wondering if you are attacking the good bacteria in our bodies along with the bad ones when using the zapper for how could it make the distintinction between good bacteria and bad....take some acidolpulus (sp sorry) to help make sure you have good flora in the intestines....
Post by mfromcanada on Feb 19, 2007 11:53:53 GMT -5
No smell here. I think my blood looks like it is filled with black spider webs under a microscsope but I am not certain it isn't just dried blood. I tried a Zapper a few times this year but it is not practical for me. I find it extremely hard to sit for 20 minutes while my hands are holding on to the handles. I am far to hyper for this treatment.
A Latin phrase meaning "Dare to know" or "Dare to be wise", or sometimes translated as "Have courage to use your own reason".
Since I started using Don Croft's Terminator Zapper in January of last year, I have continuously had lesions on my abdomen. I have had Morg for about 30 years, but have been free of open sores for the past several years. The first ones that came when I started using the Zapper were a couple of the ones I described in my post above-- the open sores that haved a certain smell and that crawl and hurt. This brought back the whole nightmare of the sores on my face all those years. One reason they came on my stomach was probably that I sleep on the Zapper, with the contacts against my stomach. I can feel and see lumps under my belly skin, and attached to the muscles of my arms and legs and chest. My neck has been red in the front for about 10 years because of the pressure from the rows of white things under the skin.
Last year I went all out to try to rid my body of parasites of all kinds. AS a result of this focus and my renewed memories of the syndrome, I started reading about various parasitic diseases and decided my old problem very much resembled leishmaniasis. Have you studied this? I also learned about Morgellons, but was still in denial about this relating to me.
The open sores did heal fairly quickly. Since then I have had lesions with calluses on my stomach. This began after I started using the Zapper. When they heal enough to pull off the calluses, sometimes there are worms, or small white bodies of some kind that come out. Then they heal.
So my stopping using the Zapper is a sort of experiment. If they go away now after a week or two, that's good enough reason for me to stop.
I've not studied leishmaniasis. Was you adopting it's specific treatment for the quckly healing sores? and are you now, no more in denial about M.?
Consider the skin is for white bodies their main way-in, the place where they prefer to stay, and probably the only way-out. But if hostile to worms the 15hz frequency would send away, not attract them.
Or, if it was a migration from other body areas, thus you experiencing a relief in peryphery (limbs foot, hands) could be an effect with other implications.
Sorry for your struggle, but your determination is encouraging.
Last Edit: Feb 24, 2007 13:42:26 GMT -5 by ::gazal::
Leishmaniasis is becoming more common in the US because soldiers are coming back with it from the Gulf. The one-celled protozoan enters the body when a person is bitten by a sand fly. Apparently this happens most in places below the 33rd parallel, which makes it similar to the first American cases of Morgellons being seen in the South. The organisms take over the cells our bodies send to attack them. Cutaneous leishmaniasis manifests as open sores that very much resemble the ones Morgellons sufferers have.
Because this disease mostly strikes poor, third-world people, not much has been done to alleviate their suffering. The treatment is expensive, toxic IV treatment over 40 days. So no, I did not try it. I went to a dermatologist last spring for the first time ever and told her what I have gone through all these years and that I suspected leishmaniasis. She got me out of there ASAP, barely looking at my skin.
Because these things are so well-established in my body, having been there over 30 years, I am not actively trying to eradicate them. This may change, because I have only recently admitted to myself that the symptoms fit. But the battle here is for my spirit, not for my body, which they took over long ago. Someone speculated that perhaps everyone is infected, but that the people who get the sores and other physical problems are the ones that can't be controlled. Maybe the fibers are antennae, and our bodies are rejecting them.
Your idea of the Zapper causing the organisms to migrate to the area where I make contact with it might make sense. I read again this morning about what the Zapper is supposed to do. It helps keep our bodies alkaline, which should help. Also, I'm thinking I should attach it to my palm of sole at night, as they suggest.
Post by sickandtired on Feb 25, 2007 11:00:29 GMT -5
It is funny you should mention the palm of sole (is that the bottom of your feet???) I was just looking through a new product that is claiming to help you eliminate toxins from your body while you sleep.....
you attach these adhesive cloth like patches to the bottom of your feet and this helps draw toxins from the body.....I have heard about the bottom of the feet and toxins before.....but never really paid that much attention.....
I would be afraid to try this one for who wants lesions on the bottom of their feet??? NOT ME.....Yikes that would be awful...
Haven't used my zapper for a week, and the lesions on my belly and sides are almost gone. I very much value the zapper's effects on parasites and bacteria in my body, but now I want to learn more about how this is effecting the Morgellons in my body. As I said in my first post on this thread, the open lesions had been completely dormant for about 10 years before I started using the zapper over a year ago.
"I am using the rife to battle Lyme disease not Morgellons. However, in a round about way, it is also helping with the morgellons. I have not found a frequency that will kill the actual Morg parasite. The theory behind the Lyme and morg connection is basically this... the Lyme bacteria is suppressing the immune system and causing other co-infections to establish themselves. If we kill the Lyme bacteria and improve our immune system, our bodies will be able to fight off the co-infections. The heavier the Lyme load, the more immunocompromised the individual is...and therefore the morg infection is worse. Many people have a mild to moderate morgellons infection (like you). Others who have a severely decreased immune system are experiencing a more severe morgellons infection with several open skin lesions, and many other problems. The key to getting rid of your morg co-infection is to get rid of underlying problem...the Lyme or other immunocompromising infection."
So using the zapper, doing an intestinal parasite cleanse, and taking oil of oregano for the past year was probably good for my overall immune system, reducing my parasite load and freeing up energy. I moved last May and spent the rest of the year doing a whole lot of physical work getting the new place in order. My energy was indeed higher than I can remember.
Post by sickandtired on Feb 28, 2007 10:40:31 GMT -5
After all is said and done though Garin you must replenish good flora into your body....
all those remedies you are taking do not know the difference between GOOD and BAD bacteria and therefore kills everything you have as far as good bacteria too......
PLEASE PLEASE take care of the most important part of this type of treatment......REPLACING THE GOOD BACTERIA in your system....your body needs GOOD bacteria to survive there are several products that replace good flora......and I feel that is one of the most important steps with this.....
I take acidolphulus (sp sorry) every day one capsule and I am not even doing a parasite kill right now......the good bacteria in your body helps digest your food to proper nutrition absorbtion from your food.....VERY IMPORTANT.......
I believe that one of the bacteria mixed with the parasites for environmental cleanup is the same bacteria that causes Lyme disease from ticks......the same bacteria and others manipulated with parasites to clean our environment.......
and once infected you can infect others so we say have infected 15 people over the last 13 years now those 15 people can infect others and then those others can infect others including pets so it really doesn't take long for lots of people out there infecting others.....the only bad thing about this disease is you can be infected for some time and not even realize it.....THIS DISEASE TAKES TIME for all the symptoms to show their face......then comes the full blowen Morgellons.......the out of control Morgellons as this parasite reproduces in our bodies....invading our cells!!! that is how small these organisms are to start with.....
looking at these microbes in a barrel was like looking at a glass of water.....one drop of water is like an ocean to these microbes.....looking for one on a slide at the wastewater treatment plant where my husband was infected he said was like looking for a bass in the pacific ocean......very hard to find on a slide but he saw three different types of microbes but there were 5-6 differenct microbes (parasites and bacteria mixed) in this barrel of fun......
It is the microbes used in environmental cleanup and pesticides (they use these microbes for termite killing these microbes are supposed to bore into the termite and kill it) now how do these microbes know the difference between a termite and a humans finger or skin for that matter (IT DOES NOT know the difference) and spraying these same types of pesticides on our crops thus these microbes are in the soil and infecting our crops too.....thus all the food contamination that has begun that last year or so as these microbes reproduce in our soil too......
This is the BLUNDER OF THE CENTURY......and still is....as they haven't stopped using these microbes and every day they release more and more of these dam things into our world.....infecting everything it comes into contact with......
Post by madmusician on Feb 28, 2007 16:11:36 GMT -5
The Agrobactreium series looks like a possible candidate for vectoring Morgellons. It (a. tumefaciens) has been used to conjugate plasmids into plants as a pesticide, such as cotton, for targeting Lepidoptera. Argo has been demonstrated (as far back as 1999) to be able to enter the human genome. It most likely infects other plants and insects/animals on its vectoring route. This could explain the manifestations seen with human sufferers (insect-like "live" secretions and fibers, i.e. gene expression changes as DNA from contact organisms/plants is conjugated and assimilated). In addition, it kills insects by crystals (from inserted plasmids -- T-DNA) absorbed into the insects gut, but, it has also been observed to enter the insects bloodstream -- this could be a serious vectoring method for this beast. (I can expand on this if interested, or send articles on this topic.)
Argo, by the way, has been used in crops since 1967...
Anyone else with the smell or strange color of blood????
Yep !! I do - Iron, a really, really strong smell of Iron. So much so, that I originally thought that I had been subjected to some kind of heavy metal poisoning like cyanide - anyone know what cyanide smells like ?
What also did'nt help matters, was that while 'exploring' at some facial lesion sites, (though not everyone) I could sometimes find what looked like a small splinters of metal (1mm or 2mm max). These were black but with a blue/green iridescent coating if you caught them in the right light.
The 'blood' - exactly the same symptoms. Sometimes I would 'draw out' a hairs thickness of 'blood' between my fingers. This would harden and go brittle and if set aside, would still be apparent next day in little slivers which would snap easily - not like any real blood spots which would separate and dry in 'islets'.
The Rife ? not had mine long enough to evaluate properly yet, all I know is that on the lowest frequency (15Hz - mine has 03 freqs) it doesn't half make you jump if the electrodes are placed on 02 separate sites - ouch !
The Gulf ? - My Nemesis. I have done the gulf lots of times now, but this last time (2003) was the one that did it for me. Definite upswing in 'infection'
On returning this time I swelled up alarmingly, 6 stone (80lbs) in 6 months. Ear infections causing dizziness, liver levels in bits and turning to fat.
As I was living/working out there with lots of American military in cramped and unhygenic conditions I'm unsure if I had become infected by the host countrys environs or possibly even from the US personnel (They could have even brought it with them from the US perhaps?)
Bizarrely enough I was originally infected in another war torn country in 1995 - Bosnia, Sarajevo.
My darkside thinking says to me that this could have been a deliberate 'weaponised vector' - designed to keep the 'enemy troops' on a low ebb !
Bitter n Blu: there sure to kill me now. but im already dead. my quality of life is gone. my money, job, everything i owned. except to run down vehicles. even my daughter for almost 3 years. shes 10. we are now together again everyday. not just once or twice a week.
Feb 10, 2017 7:06:45 GMT -5
Bitter n Blu: not checking spelling ect. get cured before it takes your life. before you can tell your children. before we are all a zombie and nobody cares. hth/emp
Feb 10, 2017 7:08:48 GMT -5
Admin: Often folks then carry until when a stressful event occurs.
Feb 10, 2017 12:41:04 GMT -5
Mostly Cured: Baking soda or Vinegar will also change PH. Not so frightening. Tea Tree oil is a fast cure for mold infections. Apply to bandage and cover wound. When the bandage comes away with a black dot your wound is clear.
Feb 10, 2017 13:51:19 GMT -5
Morph the dwarf, : Just stopped in to see where the stuff is going and it seems to be going back to the stone age, If they can tell us what this disease is then they could say weather it can be transmitted by sex. LOL
Feb 11, 2017 12:57:11 GMT -5
Morph the dwarf, : THE MEDICAL GROUP, who are these people, explain the disease to me with all its whys and therefore art thou oh Romeo, this disease is transmitted through sex, just because the results differ over time, does not mean we have something different.
Feb 11, 2017 13:00:40 GMT -5
Morph the dwarf, : MY GOD, how many of us were fighting all kind of occurrences of issues all along with doctors saying, that's f**king normal. Its not normal on my watch, I had no issues until this happened to me, then one little thing after another, mostly skin.
Feb 11, 2017 13:02:43 GMT -5
Morph the dwarf, : Then 30 years latter, the result for me, LESIONS, do we all get them, NO This disease is the cause for the over the top brain issues with young and old. How dam blind can you people be, its in the populace.
Feb 11, 2017 13:04:32 GMT -5
Morph the dwarf, : Please kill me soon lord, I can not take much more of cell phones and moronic gesses. This disease is transmitted through sex, it may be more than one thing common in the population, it has different aspect according to birth, age, age caught, body abuse
Feb 11, 2017 13:08:29 GMT -5
Admin: Thank you morph!
Feb 12, 2017 7:31:48 GMT -5
truer than fiction: try using aloe vera plant. go online to see how to peel then use as is or use blender for gel and slime use all over skin, miracle
Feb 14, 2017 2:53:07 GMT -5
Admin: aloe does help a lot as it kills bacteria, I use it for deodorant as well as all over:)
Feb 14, 2017 7:48:45 GMT -5
serenity04: Hi, I am new to this group so I thought I would just post about my experience with morgellons. It started 11 years ago. I was given a diagnosis of nodular prurigo and given steriods which didn't work. Now I have biting and crawling sensations.
Feb 20, 2017 3:51:44 GMT -5
Homeopathic answers: I am considering opening a small clinic in Tennessee to treat Mogellons but only homeopathically.
Feb 27, 2017 22:48:08 GMT -5
Admin: Anyone at the board or any boards pushing info on hep c should be vetted well as there is a high probability they are working for the pharmaceutical company. New Hep C fix out, get it into the brains of the masses so they can make more money--be careful
Mar 7, 2017 2:33:43 GMT -5
Admin: what you believe in this regard.
Mar 7, 2017 2:33:53 GMT -5
agape: any one here tried the hula clark zapper/protocol or the bob beck protocol?
Mar 10, 2017 20:58:57 GMT -5
Admin: Don't come to this board pushing products. This is not bugs per se but instead a bacteria which means infection. Sometimes when a body breaks down enough it will have bug issues so it is up to you to build the immune system with vitamins, herbs, protein.
Mar 17, 2017 20:02:06 GMT -5
Soldier ON: I read that Stevia is more effective than antibiotics for treating Lyme, so may be helpful for MD??
Mar 19, 2017 16:17:34 GMT -5
Admin: Yes, and I use it; it is noted on the board above, Thank You, good thinking:)
Mar 20, 2017 8:50:32 GMT -5