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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2006 18:00:48 GMT -5
BREAKING NEWS FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - October 18, 2006 ========================================================== Morgellons Disease: New Lab Findings www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, RIET-1, Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine has, this afternoon, (October 18, 2006) presented a paper at the NREP Annual Conference in Nashville, TN for the National Registry of Environmental Professionals, releasing preliminary findings from: A privately funded Independent Study on the Identification of Chemical and Biological Composition of Fibers from Morgellon Diagnosed Patient, and Toxicological Pathology Evaluation of Tissue Biopsy Specimens of a Morgellons Patient. Morgellons Disease: New Lab Findings www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm LISTEN TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2006 – Radio Talk Show Host Jeff Rense Welcomes Dr. Hildegarde Staninger, Dr. Rahim Karjoo, Pathologist, and Several Morgellons Victims as Guests 7:00-10:00 PM (Pacific) www.rense.com New Morgellons Order - www.cherokeechas.comMorgellons Group – Home Page - morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi Morgellons Mystery Disease Data Files - www.rense.com/Datapages/morgdat.htm Morgellons USA www.morgellonsusa.com‘A Disease Or Not?’ www.metrowestdailynews.com/health/view.bg?articleid=140752Texas: Health Authorities Baffled By Mysterious Condition www.fox11az.com/news/topstories/stories/kmsb-20061005-wfaajc-morgellons.b6607d0.htmlMorgellons: Is Skin Rash Real Or Imagined? www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/stories/20060820/localnews/118795.shtml Staninger, Hildegarde, PhD , RIET-1, Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine. “Far-Infrared Radiant Heat (FIR RH) Type Remediation for Mold and Other Unique Diseases” © October 18, 2006, NREP Annual Conference in Nashville, TN for the National Registry of Environmental Professionals, P.0. Box 2099, Glenview, IL 60025 Phone: 847-724-6631, Fax: 847-724-4223 (p. 3, p. 7) www.dldewey.com/stan.htm
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Post by Admin on Oct 18, 2006 18:08:57 GMT -5
Hi everyone....... It's been a lot of work and there's been incredible support and love go into this project!
Dr. Hildy is on the road - She'll be back in her home space the first of the week and I can ask questions of her then, BUT
Please understand WE'VE ONLY JUST BEGUN! There are more lab reports outstanding (awaiting more funding - we're praying now!)
We've posted here BEFORE sending the Alert to the Media, so you will have time to digest all this before the media pick it up. Also, please understand that we are NOT at this time recommending ANY TREATMENT MODALITIES! NONE! Until we know from where this is coming and the exact nature of it all there is a code we live by: FIRST, DO NO HARM
Dr. Hildy used the FIR Radiant Heat paper to point out the Morgellons problem to the Environmental Professionals as a PROBLEM they're going to have to clean up.
Blessings and Love and Light to you all! Shoshanna
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Post by Mark o DBeast on Oct 18, 2006 18:45:16 GMT -5
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Post by aussie on Oct 18, 2006 20:48:42 GMT -5
Thank you very much for that Shoshanna.
It is really mindblowing. Shocking. All gone crazy...and, imagine getting syphilis from a mosquito spray....how many relationships would that have broken up?
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Post by thinker on Oct 18, 2006 21:42:47 GMT -5
To all of those angels who helped with this info:
We at this board are fully aware that you made great sacrifice to get this information to us and for that we are eternally grateful.
We know it isn't over yet and that patience is truly a virtue, and you have some very thankful people applauding you in unison.
Through this board, we will continue to support you and do our work from this end of the keyboards.
There is a special place in heaven for such good souls. Thank you, I am sure, from all of us.
First, do no harm. Amen.
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Post by aussie on Oct 18, 2006 23:22:52 GMT -5
I would like to share with you an email from a friend to whom I forwarded Sho's announcement this morning:
"Very interesting - I wonder if those predisposed to TB (like me) present with TB symptoms instead of syphilis. Could account for the recent outbreaks of TB, no? Never mind, we have an arsenal at our disposal too - like raised frequencies, altered DNA, living water, tones a la biblical code and Len Horowitz - much, much help from the unseen worlds. We might be outnumbered but we have the quality of blueprint. And if we do die from their diabolical deeds, we possibly become even more powerful on the other side of the veil. I don't think they yet know how to capture the soul, despite information to the contrary - not unless we give it to them, that is."
(Friend has the TB gene inherited from rellies way way back).
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Post by Joyfullee on Oct 19, 2006 2:06:09 GMT -5
How about this? Many of my ancestors perished with TB. My mother's younger brother was hospitalized with it. Now, I can test positive for it and my daughter has tested positive. We don't have active cases...just strong reactions to the test.
What about others? Any family members have TB?
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 19, 2006 12:09:59 GMT -5
No TB for either of us....we have been tested several times my husband before a certain medication and me just to know for the records.....negative....but this does raise that question of why the TB outbreak......
I mentioned that same senario to my husband about the nanovirus for meat WHAT?? would stop that same virus from attacking bacteria in our bodies and causing your immune system to go haywire.....makes you wonder what on earth is going on here.......is everyone else that blind to all this??? they can't be......
Looks like with more research they will have quite a document on their hands.....my prayers are with our dedicated researchers.......THANK YOU from the bottom of our hearts.....
Did you see the reference to CFS and the lung worm too.....maybe that research has been started up again.....GREAT......
Cheers.....SickandTired
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Post by whiterose on Oct 19, 2006 13:51:00 GMT -5
You are our Angels, I hope that all of you know the hope that you have instilled once again in our Hearts and Souls. I pray that the light of God will protect you always.
On Bended Knee, I THANK YOU!
whiterose
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Post by aussie on Oct 21, 2006 17:58:17 GMT -5
Dear Ding(would that be an abbreviation for "Ding-a-ling", perchance?), Why would you be anxiously be awaiting for a reply for a syndrome that YOU obviously don't suffer from? Why are you telling us that you are going to adhere to the rules of this forum? Is there an alternative? This is a forum of intelligent, investigative and informed members. We have seen your type of disinformative, unhelpful postings on other sites. What qualifies YOU to say that perhaps something is there, but it is definitely being misinterpreted(by the way there is only one "t" in that word). Show us your qualifications to speak on ths subject if you want to be the expert. The fibres don't "get inside" the lesions, Ding, they actually GROW inside them and if you remove them with tweezers they grow back again. Have you ever even seen them? Go buy yourself a good magnifying glass before you feel qualified to speak on this. Of course, this condition is systemic...you are only stating the obvious. Our postings are for everyone(sufferers and non sufferers alike,) to read, and they are very clear, concise and informative. I sincerely hope you are not implying that any of these postings are "foggy"? Are you? Well? "And they OBVIOUSLY know nothing about their true conditions, or even care to".......get real, Matey....It's YOU who know nothing and are clearly being very derrogative and patronising. I looked at your site. What's to discuss??....The fact that they say the cause of Scleroma is generally unknown and appears to be an autoimmune disease? The fact that they say is is possibly caused by Borrellia, Nanobacteria, Viral infection(herpes/chlamydia), Retroviruses? Hahahaha.....Well, what do you think we are on about, too? The fact that they mention pesticides? Groans. The fact that they don't have a cure, either? The primary HIH organization for research on Scleroderma is the National Insititute of Arthritis, Musculosketal & Skin Diseases. On what information do you base your statement, "The more sick patients(in other words the ringleaders) have very damaging erroneous infuences over other very ill, susceptible people"? Show us some evidence of that, would you? Since you know so much about "C 3", why don't you give us the answers? Listen, Dill...ops sorry, I meant Ding, we are a support/information group and you aren't being supportive. What (disinformation) agency did you say you worked for?
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Post by ding on Oct 21, 2006 19:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Oct 21, 2006 20:21:59 GMT -5
Ding and Dong,
I have never been diagnosed with sarcoidosis. It is one of the end stages of this disease, as ALS is. You mention chemicals and silicosis. However, how does that cause skin conditions? If it is dust, yes, I could see that, but the lesions grow, under the scabs. I have studied this for 15 years and can see both natural phenomenon and inorganic phenomenon, so I do not believe that it is all chemical that is causing this.
Have you read anything on evolutionary development scientists and what they do? Do you know how gm foods are grown? Do you know that evolutionary theory is behind both high tech and global warming? Evolutionary theory drives epigenitics, it is behind what the NIH does, the CDC, the USDA, the Ag research, the DOE/EPA genomes to life project, and many more agencies.
If nature itself is being sabotaged for the future of science and medicine, then there seems to have been something that happened to bring about an infection that cannot be labeled as simply natural, chemical, geological, binary but an integration of two or more.
I am thinking more in terms of where evolutionary thinking is taking us, and is the adaptation that is taking place, one that will better mankind?
One can look at old issues of chemical toxicity or toxicity of things that have been integrated.
This would have to include a new paradigm for looking at infections, or unusual findings especially for the first encounter which would be on the skin. Everything else comes after, unless it is being incorporated inside our gut, then from there, gut studies should be made as to what would cause inorganic/organic organs to conduct mutations/biofilms that set the stage for body changes.
For example, in muscular dystrophy, dystrophin(a protein) leaves the muscles. What caused that? A mutation on a gene. Proteins can be fibers. What caused the mutation? either radiation, chemicals, or even transfer DNA genes from bacteria or virus that contain proteins that the body normally does not encounter in diversified form and bacteriophages have now become nannites. Nannites are not all organic, and they are the next step from bacteriophages. I do know what these have the capacity to do.
Back down to these fibers, could some be muscle, nerve, even capillaries, of course. The colored ones could simply be markers, traversing throughtout our bodies, following the BT or the B. cereus, or the silicon coated anthrax or the BT inside the broccoli, or the e-coli that seems to be spreading. When bacteria is used as if it does not affect the surrounding bacteria, then something is wrong here. Our guts are not like the cow's gut that contains numerous bacterias, our bodies go into immune shutdown, because there is too much virus/bacteria going on. Many in science are saying that disease is caused by bacteria and viruses, even cancer.
So, one can conjure up anything, but, what we are calling Morgellons is a disease that takes evolutionary theory right down to molecules, particles, proteins. So, I would think if we can educate ourselves on what scientists are actually doing today, with gene delivery therapy, of which the public knows very little, then we would be doing a service for all and morgellons as we are calling it may be a morgellon bug that vectors it. Maybe it is in the transgenic bugs. Seems to be a connection there. There are toxic bugs and some can infiltrate skin through pores.
Skytroll
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Post by whiterose on Oct 21, 2006 20:24:58 GMT -5
As per Ding & Dong's post, my that has a ring doesn't it. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You have a great deal of information on this site and some of it fits but most of it doesn't.
My own personal experience, first I went to the medical profession, they were clueless, of course your site wasn't up then was it. There weren't any sites up then as the Internet didn't exist. d**n, I guess they can't blame the INTERNET anymore. I went to the library and in many of the different possibilities of afflictions there was something that would fit but it didn't fit quite right. Where do I go now? Environmental doctors and workplace illnesses was the next plan of action.
The appointments were made and I drove 2 hrs on two separate occasions only to find that a call had been placed prior to my arrival and each time they said it was my attorney. Which was crazy because any attorney I had was not involved in any part of this. But the disinformation folks were way ahead of me, I didn't know what to do I was only 22.
Years have passed, the illness comes and goes, and I keep running into those that want the truth hidden. It only makes me more determined. I have discovered the mycoplasma information, and indeed it was very compelling. It has that full range of symptoms because it affects each of us so personally and hits us where we have our weak points.
I recently received a magazine that interlocks the death of Kennedy and Aids and its devastation on our planet. I wonder at times why so many microbiologists have died, the odds are phenomenal.
As far as your information goes dingdong, it won't work to discredit us. We are not looking to be ill, we are looking for ANSWERS. We made many connections on this website in the last few weeks. The researches, (God bless them), had a breakthrough this week. Why is it so important to hide this? WHAT ARE YOU HIDING?
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Post by aussie on Oct 21, 2006 21:36:19 GMT -5
Question for you, Ding/Dong... since you appear to be so well informed about what the CDC does(and why would that be?).......Has anyone who's been referred to the Dermatology Times been cured ?? Who? When? Where?
Why are you both going to such pains to discredit Morgellons sufferers? Concerned bystanders, perhaps? If you even personally knew one sufferer, you would know more about it than you appear to.
What's the big deal about the term "Morgellons"? The name of it doesn't alter the syndrome.
But then, you believe Morgellons sufferers are delusional, don't you? Why then, are you even bothering to expound your theories?
Dong why are you then relating your illness to Morgellons, if it doesn't exist? I notice you said you are cured, so...well..if you really seriously want us to believe you...tell us all about your illness AND share the cure? Or was it all in your mind, too? I.e. It follows that you, too, must be delusional and so therefore, why would we give any credence to a delusional entity??
And, about the lesions healing....When you get people who normally have a very rapid healing rate for skin ailments all of a sudden start getting lesions which are itchy, and even if you don't sratch them, refuse to heal for many months, and when they do have a thick callous like appearance......you think that's normal? By the way it's "obsess" not "obcess".
Ding,
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Post by dong on Oct 22, 2006 0:13:43 GMT -5
By the way, aussie, I didn't come here to answer your questions.
dong
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2006 0:45:55 GMT -5
IF YOU ARE NOT a Morgellons victim, then, indeed, what did you come here for?
We have collectively spent many, many, many thousands of research hours - and have ruled out schleraderma (SP?) - as a diagnosis for the symptoms suffered by those who, 'collectively' refer to themselves as : Morgellons Victims (or similar words, i.e., 'sufferer') - or someone having the 'Morgellons Affliction'.
Ding/Dong - If you two have anything helpful that can salve the hearts and minds of the members here - post away.
If not.........please take yourselves on down the road and attempt your distractions at another message board.
I am not banning you from the group at this time as I feel, with your adept capabilities, you just might do some helpful research and bring it back to us.
Thanks for your moment! Shoshanna Administrator
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Post by dong on Oct 22, 2006 3:06:12 GMT -5
"If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." -Noam Chomsky
Where's my post?
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2006 5:12:26 GMT -5
To Ding and Dong:
This list was started to post articles written over a long period of time by a Morgellons Sufferer. We thought his observations would be helpful to other Morgellons Victims.
Along the way, guests stopped by and began commenting, asking questions........and we have, now, a viable communication tool for MORGELLONS VICTIMS to share their experience, their research, their pain and sorrow - their triumphs and their hope.
It does not appear that you have had any of the above in mind with your contributions here and your posts have therefore been deleted.
As I mentioned in my prior post, and POST NO. 2 in Posting Etiquette - If you believe that Morgellons Victims suffer from Dilusional Parasitosis - get thee to MorgellonsWatch.com and share your doubts there.
We do not appreciate your 'propaganda tactics' - Posting dis-information and then running to other groups telling them to GO LOOK GO- GO LOOK OVER THERE where someone says it's all hogwash. I have watched this shill game many times over the years. It will not wash here.
Immediately after you posted there were over 370 people READING YOUR POSTS! We know the game. It's over!
Take your disinformation elsewhere......... Shoshanna Administrator
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Post by aussie on Oct 22, 2006 7:23:19 GMT -5
Thank you, Shoshanna, for your excellent judgement.
United we stand. I hope anyone who has any ideas of patronizing/demoralizing our excellent forum takes note.
We appreciate helpful, logical, caring, informed postings and will do our very best to support anyone who asks for assistance. This board has been/is a Godsend to many people.
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Post by whiterose on Oct 22, 2006 11:25:52 GMT -5
Thank you so much, Shoshanna,
So many people have dealt with this alone, the borard is a Godsend as are the folks REALLY working to find the answers.
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Post by ding on Oct 22, 2006 11:49:43 GMT -5
Reverend Allison,
As a sufferer of chronic pruritus/joint-muscle pain/memory problems, I'd thoroughly read the rules for posting on this forum before choosing to. There have been quite a few posters who've violated posting etiquette, all along, I see, but I know I didn't breach the rules.
Yesterday, I received a private message with a "mandated apology" from a poster named, "thinker". It offered no explanation, not even as to why you ordered the person to send it to me. I don't know why you've deleted my comments overnight. What you have charged me with is ridiculous. I am very sorry that you feel that way, and I will look for a more acceptable group, as you suggested.
Sincerely, ding
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Post by whiterose on Oct 22, 2006 12:01:54 GMT -5
Dingdong,
It is obvious to those of us with this illness that you are here to undermine. The next obvious question is why? The most obvious answer is we should celebrate your appearance as it means the researchers have hit the mark. If that wasn't the case you wouldn't be hear.
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Post by ding on Oct 22, 2006 16:30:27 GMT -5
To Those Concerned,
I just checked back, and I want all of you to TRY putting your minds at ease!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am NOT the same person as somebody who'd commented as "dong". That person explained that when they posted.
I'm sick, and near the end of my rope. I'd read of Reverend Allison and I was seeking understanding, HOPING to find it HERE, of ALL places, to develop my full human potential and realization, according to her teaching background, so that I can better cope with whatever this is.
Have yourselves a great life, each of you. Party down, WhiteRose. I plan to let others know what to expect from this place, and to keep away.
Yours truly, ding
"Bell Ringer"? I just noticed that. Thanks a whole lot.
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Post by aussie on Oct 22, 2006 17:09:42 GMT -5
Hello, esteemed fellow board members!
Do any of you recall those closeknit tribes who, when any of the members tried to do harm to the fellow members, were classed as "non people"?
The rest of the tribe absolutely ignored them...they didn't exist as far as the tribe was concerned. There is a good lesson there, don't you think???
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Post by whiterose on Oct 22, 2006 17:17:13 GMT -5
Absolutely aussie,
I think it is a perfect idea.
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Post by thinker on Oct 22, 2006 18:06:25 GMT -5
Yes, non-people. I like that much.
Just goes to show even tribes of old had these challenges.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2006 22:45:32 GMT -5
YOU are the only person in the whole world EVER to refer to me as REVEREND Allison, so I guess you have not read about 'me'.
You wrote: "I'm sick, and near the end of my rope. I'd read of Reverend Allison and I was seeking understanding, HOPING to find it HERE, of ALL places, to develop my full human potential and realization, according to her teaching background, so that I can better cope with whatever this is. "
Perhpas it is another REVEREND Allison somewhere else who can help you develop your full human potential and realization.
Didn't work!
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Post by sickandtired on Oct 23, 2006 11:41:06 GMT -5
Thank you Shoshanna........
This will not be the last time we get these non-people.....the more research the more non-people will show up.....
this board doesn't support their agendas....and for that I am ever grateful...
Regards, SickandTired
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Post by dong on Oct 23, 2006 14:08:36 GMT -5
The article stated that the spray wasn't approved for use until August 2006, so why all the talk about it already causing Morgellons? Why did the article even pose the question? I think it's obvious that the author has another agenda.
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Post by Admin on Oct 23, 2006 15:01:11 GMT -5
DONG:
It is the TECHNOLOGY - viral protein envelope - WHICH IS BEING USED IN BAZILLIONS OF APPLICATIONS as a delivery system for mutated DNA and RNA - ABOUT WHICH THE PAPER SPEAKS..........
THE 'SPRAY' INCORPORATES THAT TECHNOLOGY.
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