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« Result #1 Yesterday at 5:17pm »

It isn't a very active board. It may be that it isn't well-moderated. Crystal River kept it going for awhile but has had other things she's had to attend to.

It's kind of too bad, because this is the ideal board to discuss Dr. Staninger's protocol, but that has been tried and very little response. Oh, well.

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« Result #2 on Feb 8, 2010, 11:40pm »

to be as vhonest as i can i cant afford much more. spent so much these past few years just to find nothing is helping me. It seems no one comes on here any more why is this. i wonder
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« Result #3 on Feb 7, 2010, 8:21am »

Awake -

Yes, Carnicom has been diligent and courageous in pursuing and attempting to expose this horror. I like the restraint that he practices in terms of jumping to conclusions and making statements that he can't support. The internet is rife with wild speculations that are supported as "fact"; that doesn't help our cause at all.

It seems that Carnicom and Staninger's ideas are beginning to converge. If only their research efforts would! Think of the progress that could be made if there were more collaboration? (I am including Wymore in this).

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« Result #4 on Feb 6, 2010, 5:08pm »

Greggo -

Fantastic news!

Shubot -

Missed your post till now - I'm doing OK, really no different. Playing a lot of golf and destroying my hands in the process. BAD osteoporosis!

How are you??

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« Result #5 on Feb 6, 2010, 5:03pm »
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I just researched gene mutation from GE soy. This is the only thing I could find:

"Gene mutation. Scientists do not know if the forced insertion of one gene into another gene could destabilize the entire organism, and encourage mutations and abnormalities. Likewise, no one knows if or how eating mutated food could affect people’s own DNA."

http://www.sustainabletable.org/issues/ge/

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« Result #6 on Feb 4, 2010, 11:17am »

By the way... If you scroll down his page untill you reach the bottom the part highlighted in the red says that morgellons does NOT fit into any known biology.

Here's that part taken from the document:
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As such, it appears that we are dealing with an "organism" that transcends the structural existence that has been defined for life itself. The Morgellons condition appears, by the best information and analysis to date, to be an orchestrated synthesis that crosses the lines of the three established Domains of life on this planet. It is very difficult to envision, at this state of knowledge, that this "organism" (for the sake of discussion) is the result of any "natural" or "evolutionary" process. This hypothesis, if accepted, forces us to consider the very real prospect of deliberate and willful indulgence in the arena of genetic engineering. This could certainly explain, at least in part, the deliberate and willful lack of disclosure and honesty on the issue to the public. We may also ask what was the motivation for the "ordained" misdiagnosis of 'delusional parasitosis' that was promoted so negligently and that has now failed so prominently? What is at the heart of the strong coincidence between biological and certain environmental samples? Disclosure and full honesty will reclaim their rightful positions in the end, regardless of the machinations of our own species.

The more appropriate "term" for this condition may evolve in like order to that which has been described for science in general; I will not confuse the issue with additional nomenclature at this time. What has happened here is that the term "Morgellons" now encompasses a broader context than that which has been previously understood. I shall always correct my ways if a straightforward address of the issues reveals that everything after all is amazingly simple, and that we can get on with our ordinary business of taking yet another pill to alleviate the symptoms. The evidence and history thus far does not project such an innocent and gleeful outcome, and in the meantime we must prepare ourselves for the heinousness that has been unleashed, by whatever means, upon us.
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« Result #7 on Feb 4, 2010, 11:05am »

Has anyone checked out Clifford carnicoms work lately? It looks like he has some good reserach on his site. His latest findings say that morgellons does not fit into any known biology. The findings he says points to this has being competely manipulated as there is nothing else like it. His research really sounds like the most intensive and well thought out yet. One of the few plp who are really serious about digging into this... the findings resonates with me as being dedicated to finding out exactly what we are dealing with.

Here's a link to the latest findings.

MORGELLONS : A NEW CLASSIFICATION

http://www.carnicom.com/morgobs8.htm


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« Result #8 on Feb 4, 2010, 9:48am »

Excellent !!!

Good luck to you both! And to us all...

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« Result #9 on Feb 3, 2010, 8:45pm »

Good news everyone me and a fellow sufferer are going to be at an international dermatologists forum as visual subjects for Morgellons I have given allot of samples I guess the other person has done the same the date for this is is 13th February I hope this will be an opportunity to have morgellons printed in a medical journal I will tell all what the outcome will be. This will be at the Marter hospital Brisbane Q.L.D Australia.
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I have the far infrared pad and used it for 3 months before i bought the sauna. I was very very ill so i needed the sauna in addition to the pad. Some people get better with just the pad. It depends on how much exposure to this material someone has had. I needed something stronger. The pad is half as powerful as the far infrared rainbow and the sauna is 16x as powerful as the pad.
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« Result #11 on Feb 1, 2010, 8:21pm »

When the CDC's big announcement turned out to be yet again another jerk job, I began to call everyone I could. Dr Joe Selby returned my call and during our heated conversation, he let it slip that, "THEY FOUND NO INFECTION IN ANY OF US." PERIOD!

The reason I am posting is that during the one year research, there was a Sunday in which Dr Michelle Pearson from the CDC called my home over 10 times to ask me in a rushed or urgent way if I was clearing up or doing well over the weekend.

I WAS. Every now and then I just get perfect. It doesn't last but this was one of those times.

My goal here is to see if any of the other lab rats that were with me in Nor Cal also received this call. Mind you, Dr. Selby and Dr. Pearson never called me on the weekends or ever to ask how I was feeling. Ever.

I would really like to know if anyone else had this happen to them.

Thank you for your time.

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PS. Dr Pearson's favorite responce to my hostile questioning is, "You are not the only one dealing with this, you are not alone."
All the Dr.s say that repeatedly to continue jerking us around.
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Transgenic maize (corn) has been deliberately genetically modified to have agronomically desirable traits. Traits that have been engineered into corn include resistance to herbicides and resistance to insect pests, the latter being achieved by incorporation of a gene that codes for the Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) toxin. Hybrids with both herbicide and pest resistance have also been produced. Transgenic maize is currently grown commercially in a number of countries, including the United States (where over 80% of the maize crop is genetically-modified), South Africa, and, to a limited degree, in Spain, the Czech Republic, Portugal and Germany[1].

Corn varieties resistant to glyphosate isopropylamine (salt) (Liberty) herbicides and Roundup have been produced. There are also corn hybrids with tolerance to imidazoline herbicides marketed by Pioneer Hi-Bred under the trade mark Clearfield, but in these the herbicide tolerance trait was bred without the use of genetic engineering. Consequently the regulatory framework governing the approval, use, trade and consumption of transgenic crops does not apply for imidazoline tolerant corn.


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« Result #13 on Jan 31, 2010, 9:52am »

(NaturalNews) Ever wonder how the drug companies REALLY want to sell pharmaceuticals? Here's the answer: Through vending machines! Bypass the doctors, advertise drugs directly to consumers, and get them to insert their credit cards into drug-dispensing machines that pretend to "diagnose" diseases by asking people to take an instant survey.

Do you sometimes feel like life is too much to handle? Do you ever start projects but fail to finish them? Have you ever felt sad about something? If so, you may be suffering from a brain chemistry disorder that requires pharmaceutical treatment! Here, just insert your credit card, push the "BrainZac" button, and this machine will issue you a diagnosis AND deliver your "treatment."

The small print, of course, says you'll be billed $12 per pill, and dispensed 100 pills for a total of $1200 dollars, 90% of which will be billed to the federal government and paid by taxpayers.

What a scam, huh? This is where the industry is headed. CVS Pharmacies already have in-house clinics that can diagnose diseases and prescribe drugs for them all in the same minute!

If retail pharmacies are going to play doctor, diagnosing fictitious "diseases" and then prescribing dangerous pills to "treat" those diseases, then why do we need doctors in the loop at all? Big Pharma has figured out it would be a lot more profitable to just skip the doctors and sell drugs directly to consumers.

This is why they are lobbying the FDA so strongly to move hundreds of popular prescription-only drugs to over-the-counter (OTC) status. That way, the doctors are taken completely out of the loop, and consumers can buy all these high-profit pharmaceuticals themselves, like mind slaves responding to direct-to-consumer drug advertising.

The FDA recently admitted it hopes to convert 50% of blockbuster prescription drugs to OTC status. That list even includes dangerous, deadly drugs like statins and antidepressants.

Keep in mind this is all happening in a political environment where the FDA claims herbs, supplements and superfoods are so dangerous that zero health claims should be allowed by the companies selling them. But deadly prescription drugs are so safe, the FDA says, that even children should be able to walk into a Wal-Mart and buy unlimited bottles of statins and antidepressant drugs, completing the purchase through a self checkout lane that doesn't even require the oversight of a pharmacist.

from here: http://www.naturalnews.com/024077_drugs_prescription_drugs_drug_companies.html

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Hi, Shubot -

Almost missed your post!
Dr. Reed is just learning. She is a conventional doctor but her "mind got opened" by the illness of a close friend (Morgellons). Her practice is general medicince, but people have been calling her because they've seen her name in these announcements in various groups. She still only sees people with Morgellons one day a month.
She sticks with what she knows, i.e., she tests people for known associated disorders such as Lyme, etc, and treats within established protocols. On the side, however, she is learning as much as she can from alternative medicine, and from her patients.
Some people are having some improvements as certain issues are diagnosed and treated, but I think her biggest contribution is that people can finally talk to a real medical doctor and not get dismissed. She's a lovely lady.
We've been meeting for about a year and a half now, and I love going to the meetings. I think the isolation is one of the worst things about all this.
If anything emerges from the meetings that is of wider relevance, I will post that.
I hope that anyone who lives in FL will try to make at least one meeting (it's a large state, and some people drive 4 hours each way!).
Send me a pm if you are in FL with your phone number and I will call you.
It is a very healing experience!

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« Result #15 on Jan 30, 2010, 7:57pm »

Hmmm...that post is 3 1/2 years old. I don't even know if Cliff comes here anymore!

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« Result #16 on Jan 30, 2010, 7:55pm »

Hi, Luvbunny -

Glad you are hanging there. This has got to be the hardest thing a person has ever got to face; it would have been easier if I'd been diagnosed with terminal cancer than to discover the nature of my condition.

But things are different now. I still have some depression, some anxious times, and some symptoms (but few). I have finally realized - or come to the place - where living with this is possible.

I know there are many different protocols out there, and few of them are affordable. But you should look through the suggestions here and on other boards (liked scarredangel's in the post above yours) to find one you can afford.

I think I know of you from another board - or someone with the same name. That is good. Reach out in all directions for support and information.

Together we can get through this...

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« Result #17 on Jan 29, 2010, 2:24am »

I live in california and cant get a doctor to validate a thing about the morgellons or even try. to help
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Just a quick note im still alive . after several attemps to end it all.
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« Result #19 on Jan 28, 2010, 2:16pm »

I found some infomation on how to identify the genentically modified foods from the none GM. It is to do with the code that is labeled on foods.

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Just say NO to GMOs!

We love foods that come in packages that plainly state what they aren't these days. No preservatives, non-GMO, no sugar added, MSG-free, no artificial flavors or colors, etc. It is ind of sad that we live in a world where what's NOT in it is often as important as what IS. Unfortunately, when we visit the produce aisle, fancy packaging with clear labeling is lacking. Most organic produce is either in a section on its own or marked with signage as "organic". But if you are looking to avoid genetically modified produce, good luck. Neither signage or labeling is going to be there to promote these suspect fruits and veggies.

The problem with GMO's is that we have no idea what potential nightmare these Frankenstein-like plants pose-and we probably won't know for a really long time. Messing around with Mother Nature can be a recipe for disaster. For example, tobacco plants were genetically engineered to produce gamma-linolenic acid. However, the plants mainly produce the toxic product actadecatetraenic acid. Unmodified tobacco plants don't produce this toxic substance. Yeast was genetically modified to obtain increased fermentation. An unexpected side effect was an accumulation of the metabolite methyl-glyoxal in toxic and mutagenic concentrations.Not only do we not know the health risks in consuming genetically modified foods, but the impact they might have on the environment is another concern. But how do we know what produce is genetically modified? It's all in the numbers!

We hate 8, but 9 is fine!

That is the catch-phrase I use when shopping for produce. The tiny little stickers on produce that let the cashier know what to ring up on the register have a tale to tell. Most have just a four digit code; these are your regular, pesticide grown produce. If there are five digits, all you have to do is look at the first number. If it starts with a 9 it is fine. Fantastic even. A nine means it is organically grown. But it's okay to hate the number 8. Produce that have eight as the beginning number are genetically modified. Avoid these!

If it's not enough to have to read labels like a detective these days, now you have to decipher codes in the produce aisle too. But with this little catch-phrase, at least you'll be able to crack the code!

http://ezinearticles.com/?Identifying-GMOs-at-the-Grocery-Store&id=962546

PLU codes : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_Look-Up_code


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« Result #20 on Jan 27, 2010, 7:19pm »

bobbie -

First, your daughter is very lucky to have a supportive and believing parent. It is all too rare with those of us afflicted. Second, your daughter is NOT delusional.
Go to Morgellons.org and to http://www.healthsciences.okstate.edu/morgellons/index.cfm (which, unfortunately, is very much in need of an update). There are nearly 15,000 families registered as having this horrible malady - FAR too many to be "delusional".
If you or your daughter need someone to talk to, send me a personal message on this board with your phone number and I will call you.
Don't despair. There are approaches that can dramatically reduce the amount and severity of her symptoms.
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« Result #22 on Jan 26, 2010, 9:10am »

I am not saying that if it were not creating symptoms that it would be a good thing. I am against any modification that tecnnology could do to the human body. The body is the blue-print of god's creation. I think it is WORSE for those who show NO symptoms.

It's better for the body to be exspeling these things than "keeping it all inside" If this has exceed in not producing any symptoms in the majority that could mean their body's aren't fighting it. I rather have my body fighting this than doing nothing at all.

At the very least it show something unintented has happened which the "designers" of morgellons did not want.

It is better to have symptoms i beileve. It means it's not doing what it was designed to do...and that could be any number of things from what i have seen. Mind control and transhumanism are two very big possibilies.

I beileve the physical fatiuge could be due to a build up of the chemicals this thing creates in the body. Just from the feel of my skin i would say it radically changes the chemisty. The cells won't function properly when there are toxins staving them of oxygen.

The neurologically symptoms i would say are caused in part by by toxic build up. I would say a detox may help alot.

This is certainly not an upgrade in any sense.

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Aerial Emissions, Morgellons, Nanotechnology, medical and environmental
impacts - THREE PAPERS - Dr. Hildegarde Staninger

Smart Dust and Its Global Environmental Impact

http://www.hildegarde-staninger.com/smar....al-impact.html


Exposure to Aerial Biological Pesticides

http://www.hildegarde-staninger.com/expo....esticides.html

EXPOSURE TO AERIAL EMISSIONS OF NANO COMPOSITE MATERIALS RESULTED IN CHOLINESTERASE INHIBITION:

http://www.hildegarde-staninger.com/exposure-to-aerial-emissions-.html

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I am new to this site and I am not sure that it is still active. Most of the threads on here are not recent. I have a 21 year old daughter who has been suffering for about a year now with some kind of thread-like parasite. We spoke to an infectious disease dr. at USC and he thought she was delusional. These things look very much like what Cliff had described as the cotton parasites.
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I feel like my body and mind has been changed too, but not upgraded. I feel like mine has been declined. My memory and mental abilities have been declined. My vision is in decline, my spine, legs and arms are weakened, and my body has fatigue. Maybe this is what has to occur before the upgrade is noticed. I feel like maybe what was suppose to happen in the upgrade had a flaw in it, and maybe that is why we became ill and others that were exposed had little or no symptoms.

I know too, that my hair, nails, teeth, and skin have changed. I also feel like some type of damage or change has affected my neurological system and my cardiovascular and peripheral vascular systems. My joints have all been affected since I became ill with this.

I sometimes think that we may have the symptoms because our body or soul or mind have something in them that recognize this as an enemy and we are trying to fight it off and push it out to save our original selves.
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Hi, Everyone,

I know we have all been concerned about the absence of crystalriver, and we all miss her.

I can now tell you that she is fine. She is very busy in deep research and sends her love and best wishes to all.

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Transhumanism is the upgrading of the human body with the help of technology. I think transhumanism is fundamental to knowing the cause of morgellons. I know there is purpose to what morgellons does in the body. It replaces bits with "fake" parts such as hair and skin. I don't know how far it is capable of going through.

It's hard to know if it is altering internal organs as it doing to skin and hair. My guess would have to be yes through. If it is repacing skin and hair and blood then it's also in the process of changing internal organs.


It Looks like it is in the blood as it seems to be filled with morgellons "gunk" I have seem my blood harden up to a crystal like substance. It seems similar to what liquid crystal is able to do...

If i am able to remember correctly liquid crystal responeds to electrical current. That's why it's used in Liquid crystal displays (LCD's). It like it's able to change the chemical state of our blood from a liqud to soild crystaline... I wonder why it is able to do this to the blood. It seems point in the direction of nanotechnology.

It must be altering the dna for it to be able to minic the body so closely. I can only guess that it is replicating dna and mergiing with our genetic makeup.

I am not sure why some have symptoms when most have definitely been exposed to the same things which cause "morgellons" I guess something must have gone wrong in us and it has failed to remain umdetected.


Recent reseach by Clifford carnicom says that morgellons is in the blood.

http://www.carnicom.com/blood3.htm

From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transhumanism

Lquid crystal again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal

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« Result #28 on Jan 24, 2010, 10:16am »

I can't say whatever it is morgellons or not. The thing with what is being called "morgellons" is that it's very varied in symptoms and how servere it is. If it is M it will gradually change how you feel , It takes away self-esteem and can become very debilitating. It just depends how it progresses over time.

The medical community don't even view it as a real disease. They usually label morgellons victims as having a "mental" illness because they refuse to look at the evidence. Because how bizare it can be no one what's to touch it in main stream "medicine"

If you can see any colored fibers in skin lesion(s) or notice any changes in hair than that would be an indication of morgellons. You would have to have a mircoscope inorder to see the fibers. Skin symptoms are only a small amount of the actual symptoms it can produce through. It can affect the entire body and affects orgons, but it does not always go that far.

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« Result #29 on Jan 24, 2010, 10:01am »

Hi, janoleolsen

Welcome. Are you Scandinavian by any chance?

Park benches: Birdmites? They may infect cats and dogs, but I don't know if they can contaminate humans.

As to Morgellons, a common symptom is lesions that will not heal, but keep prouducing calluses/crusts, with strange hook-like tentacles underneath, often containing fibers of different colors, see for example

http://rense.com/general74/morg6-1.htm

My onset (at least what I think was the onset) had the characteristics of an anaphylactic shock with severe itching and extreme swelling. Looked like the Michelin man. Even the soles of my feet and the insides of my hands were swollen. Couldn't walk or use knife and fork for 3 weeks.

Hope with all my hart that you have not contracted Morgellons.

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« Result #30 on Jan 24, 2010, 8:35am »

Hi, janoleolsen, and welcome to this board.

I am sorry that you are going through these uncomfortable symptoms. I hope your treatment helps. I have never heard of getting scabies on a park bench, but I suppose it could happen if someone else severely affected sat there just before you sat down.

We cannot diagnose morgellons. I am not sure what you have, but your story does not sound like it. When I got it, the symptoms were quite severe and I felt really sick. I had the shakes for over three weeks.

One thing I have learned about this condition is that everyone does not get all of the same symptoms all of the time. It seems to be variable to some degree and I think that may be due to the geographical regions where each of us live. I have some symptoms that others do not seem to speak of, and others have symptoms I have not had. Some symptoms are so bizarre, I don't even talk about them.

There is a list of the most common symptoms related to morgellons on the link below from Rense.

http://www.rense.com/general74/morg4.htm

I hope this info helps you and you recover very soon.

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